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Allch Chcar · 09-13-2010, 11:52 PM

Thanks Snaps. I read Autoblog but apparently I missed that article.

MtnDrvr86, to be sure. But I can dream right?

Dimman · 09-14-2010, 12:55 AM

I bet Audi wishes they had the datalogging that Toyota does, when their incidents happened...

BoostJunkie · 09-14-2010, 10:05 AM

:happy0180:

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Originally Posted by Dimman

I bet Audi wishes they had the datalogging that Toyota does, when their incidents happened...

Allch Chcar · 09-14-2010, 09:21 PM

A new link.
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...100919951/1424

There is a glitch involved in downloading the speed

from the box. Apparently it is not accurately translated. There was a driver in a Tundra that wrecked into a tree going a recorded 170mph. They found that the speed was inaccurate but everything else was accurate, such as the driver inputs to throttle, brake, etc

.

Pretty easy to do, just have the wrong gear ratio loaded in the computer and the speed would be way off. But that it is just in the reading of the box makes it unimportant really.

BoostJunkie · 09-14-2010, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

A new link.
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...100919951/1424

There is a glitch involved in downloading the speed

from the box. Apparently it is not accurately translated. There was a driver in a Tundra that wrecked into a tree going a recorded 170mph. They found that the speed was inaccurate but everything else was accurate, such as the driver inputs to throttle, brake, etc

.

Pretty easy to do, just have the wrong gear ratio loaded in the computer and the speed would be way off. But that it is just in the reading of the box makes it unimportant really.

Lol 170, they were like holy sh&t, it looks f@&$ing stock?!?!?

NESW20 · 09-16-2010, 12:30 AM

for the record, i would like to say that stuck accelerator or no, that incident with the lexus was still driver error. PUT THE CAR IN NEUTRAL, hit the brakes, pull onto the shoulder, and turn the car off. done. everyone would still be alive.

Midship Runabout · 09-16-2010, 12:34 AM

hmmm maybe if it were still called an emergency brake and not a "parking brake"... haha

BoostJunkie · 09-16-2010, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Normous

hmmm maybe if it were still called an emergency brake and not a "parking brake"... haha

Even if, how hard is it to put it in neutral?

1GoZoom · 03-19-2011, 06:48 PM

I do believe it was 2003 when the United State of California decided for fuel efficiency and "green" reasons, all cars had to switch to drive-by-wire system by 2006. That left GM to quickly build the Cobalt, which aside from the SS, was a total failure and only lasted 5 years. I hate drive-by-wire, but its here to stay thanks to the nannies of the world. It'll be in the 86, not a doubt in my mind since its now "law" as the President of California seems to believe.

NESW20 · 03-19-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 1GoZoom

I hate drive-by-wire

why?

Midship Runabout · 03-19-2011, 07:16 PM

Holy thread revival.
The only real problem I have with it is if it does fail for some reason, you are stranded on the side of the road. Atleast with a cable you can ghetto rig some thing to get you home.

ichitaka05 · 03-19-2011, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midship Runabout

Holy thread revival.
The only real problem I have with it is if it does fail for some reason, you are stranded on the side of the road. Atleast with a cable you can ghetto rig some thing to get you home.

Better than making a new thread.

1GoZoom · 03-20-2011, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NESW20

why?

Because my Ion is drive-by-wire and it has been plagued from day 1. Sensors fail left and right, everything is twice as expensive to replace due tot he electronics, and the pedal isn't responsive.

Midship Runabout · 03-20-2011, 01:30 AM

^ no offense, but that's because its a saturn and they are pieces of shit electronically.

09-14-2010, 09:21 PM	#46
Allch Chcar Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Drives: N/A Location: N/A Posts: 3,380 Thanks: 2,205 Thanked 646 Times in 419 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	More news A new link. http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...100919951/1424 There is a glitch involved in downloading the speed from the box. Apparently it is not accurately translated. There was a driver in a Tundra that wrecked into a tree going a recorded 170mph. They found that the speed was inaccurate but everything else was accurate, such as the driver inputs to throttle, brake, etc . Pretty easy to do, just have the wrong gear ratio loaded in the computer and the speed would be way off. But that it is just in the reading of the box makes it unimportant really.

09-16-2010, 12:30 AM	#48
NESW20 2.1L 3SGTE Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: MR2 Turbo & Tacoma Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 1,248 Thanks: 29 Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	for the record, i would like to say that stuck accelerator or no, that incident with the lexus was still driver error. PUT THE CAR IN NEUTRAL, hit the brakes, pull onto the shoulder, and turn the car off. done. everyone would still be alive. __________________ 1991 MR2 Turbo - 2.1L high compression stroker 3SGTE 2006 Tacoma 4x4 TRD Off Road - All-Pro front bumper, Old Man Emu shocks, Old Man Emu HD front coils, All-Pro leafs 1990 240SX Coupe - sold 2008 Civic Si Sedan

03-19-2011, 06:48 PM	#51
1GoZoom Mazda and Ecotec Owner Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: 2004 Mazda 6S Location: Southeast Ohio Posts: 102 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I do believe it was 2003 when the United State of California decided for fuel efficiency and "green" reasons, all cars had to switch to drive-by-wire system by 2006. That left GM to quickly build the Cobalt, which aside from the SS, was a total failure and only lasted 5 years. I hate drive-by-wire, but its here to stay thanks to the nannies of the world. It'll be in the 86, not a doubt in my mind since its now "law" as the President of California seems to believe. __________________ 2004 Mazda6S MTX 2006 Saturn Ion 2.4L "Sport" MTX

03-19-2011, 07:16 PM	#53
Midship Runabout formerly Dixie Normous Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: The ladies wild! Location: ())_)CRAYOLA)_))> Posts: 996 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Holy thread revival. The only real problem I have with it is if it does fail for some reason, you are stranded on the side of the road. Atleast with a cable you can ghetto rig some thing to get you home. __________________

03-20-2011, 01:30 AM	#56
Midship Runabout formerly Dixie Normous Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: The ladies wild! Location: ())_)CRAYOLA)_))> Posts: 996 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ no offense, but that's because its a saturn and they are pieces of shit electronically. __________________

09-13-2010, 11:52 PM	#43
Allch Chcar Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Drives: N/A Location: N/A Posts: 3,380 Thanks: 2,205 Thanked 646 Times in 419 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks Snaps. I read Autoblog but apparently I missed that article. MtnDrvr86, to be sure. But I can dream right?

09-16-2010, 12:34 AM	#49
Midship Runabout formerly Dixie Normous Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: The ladies wild! Location: ())_)CRAYOLA)_))> Posts: 996 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	hmmm maybe if it were still called an emergency brake and not a "parking brake"... haha

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