A look at Toyota FT-86 Convertible Concept with top up

[NorseLegend]

Sent from your mom's room.

[Doc]

Depending where you live, top down driving is truly a wonderful experience and at least once in their life, every car enthusiast should own one. It is likely that many in this forum have not owned a convertible, so will minimize it based on appearance alone.

I never thought this list of convertibles that once rested in my garage were "ugly"... 05 S2000, 03 SC430, 08 Gallardo, 07 Aston Martin Vantage and of course, my wife's 08 Velocity Yellow Corvette - hence her nick name. Now, take a look at the new Porsche Boxster and even the 911 Convertible - sweeeet.

What you guys should be asking or evaluating when it comes to the FRS or BRZ convertible is structural integrity / cowl shake, any added weight due to needed reinforcement, top quality (not all soft tops are created equally), reliable convertible actuators (top up / down)...

BTW - I am sure the FRS / BRZ "drop top" will look great and be a blast to drive, particularly in my neck of the woods - South Florida.

Personally, I'd buy a BRZ, loaded, convertible but only in any future STI with more hp/tq -- Vette spoiled here.

[jwjknorr]

A good example of taking a awesome thing and ShI*** bricks on it. Sorry this car would be nice for those who arnt looking for a fun sports car, i seee handlig going right out the window, or the open roof in this case. I love my fr-s i hope they dont ruin the name.

[Whitigir]

Toyota always has this the best

1/ concept look hot, and promising
2/ Productions look like Sht, and poor performance
3/ Then make it even worse....How many Solara did Toyota sell ? ...... I thought so.

4/ Not even to mention that they killed the Supra first, but then the Celica and the Solara remain...what a SHAME!

[PMok]

why are you guys all convinced the car is going to go to shit just because they made it a convertible? The MR2 Spyder was designed from the get-go to be a convertible, and it weighed in at a whopping 2200 lbs and was one of the best-handling Toyotas ever made.

[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by PMok

why are you guys all convinced the car is going to go to shit just because they made it a convertible? The MR2 Spyder was designed from the get-go to be a convertible, and it weighed in at a whopping 2200 lbs and was one of the best-handling Toyotas ever made.

Because it has to be a track monster! Everyone tracks their car every single day. And when they're not tracking their car, they're driving it to work... on a track. Because the race track is actually their commute to work.

[kioton32]

Targa, Targa, Targa, Targa

[Moshpit37]

The shape of the rear-quarter window just kills it for me. Changes the look of the side profile too much. No Hofmeister kink = no good. As others have stated, I would have preferred a targa option to this. But whatever, I already have mine and don't plan on getting rid of it any time soon, so whatever gets the ladies into the showroom, I suppose. I just hope the new Supra has a targa like the MkIV.

[TheFunkyMonkey]

Originally Posted by Zaku

This has gone on long enough and I with held for three threads. I've been around long enough and put up with more forum stuff that most of you here, since I had a hate thread calling me out for the "BRZ not existing" In 09 because Subaru will never make something not 4wd so Spare me. when I post something once In a while like this I hope it will shed some light on stupidity.

So much hate and sexist comments for something that's good. Last time I check Women own FRS too.

I don't think Toyota cares how much of these end up in the hand of a HS girl, or a college girl or girls in general ( I hope women would purchase and support the 86)and I for one if I purchase one don't care cause I'm confident enough in my masculinity to not judge a car by looking under it to see if it has balls. Open top isn't that bad of an experience, otherwise every Miata is stupid, every spyder in history is stupid, the S2000 is stupid. And trust me last time I check most S2k are owned by Men and most of those Owners have moved on to FRS many waiting on open top to keep their s2k experience mind you.

Most People aren't gonna buy this for track or even performance( LIKE MOST PEOPLE WHO BUY THIS CAR PERIOD(Coupe FRS included),The open concept I think of it as the Corolla that sells to fund your coupe like the Levin that was the bulk of AE86 sales. I hate to burst your bubble but it's not the best track car(stock), I guarantee you it wont wins you that many podium stock but you'll have a heck of a good time in it. ( thats the point actually to have a good time) And this Open top will give you that same good time. If you've ever driven an open top car in a performance setting you'll have fun all the same specially this car.

Heck most of you didn't buy your FRS for track, About 80% will never drift your cars, autoX it, or track it. So the 80% that's hating on this because it's not track worthy is totally utterly whining for no reason and I guarantee most of you just bought it so you have something nice to DD in and don't argue with me on this I'm totally right. If I started a poll right now to how many FRS here has race on a track or an Auto X and I ask you to prove it. I bet it be like 20 people.

Stop with the stupid sexist comments, look at a bigger picture. If Toyota has more of these sold you might I dunno Scion Might give you standard push start and HID and some other goodies that are on the Open top Standard when it comes out.

it's a win situation. The more stupid comments there is on the forums the more it's unlikely well ever get anything nice, They watch social media everyone they have people hired just to keep watch, if Europe get it and we don't I'm gonna say it's our fault we're stuck with this Mono Spec FRS that isn't gonna change because no one cares for anything else but the current FRS.

so stop it!, those University girls are much more mature looking driving a convertible, than a bunch of 20 some year old Coupe driving men trying to act Macho on the internet with " ohhh it's bad with out a roof, because it's bad on a track reasoning" When they don't even track their coupe.( ok I admit I'm there too but still I know when not to do it)

I'll stand behind my comments as I don't consider them to be sexist but rather factual.

That being said, I do think you make some good points with the primary one being that the more variants of the car, the better for all. And while I agree that the manufacturers monitor forums, I'm not convinced that a few people (in the grand scheme of things) not liking a particular variant is going to cause major problems. We are after-all entitled to our opinions.

Personally, I don't prefer convertibles. That's coming from someone who has owned two AP1s and an AP2 -- all highly modified. I finally went with a hardtop but that doesn't count the same as a coupe. And I feel that the FRS/BRZ definitely looks better as a coupe than a convertible.

I'm not going to debate how many people track these cars -- or not. My guess is a fair amount but clearly not the majority... Just like I don't get into the whole form over function debate. Regardless on both topics, it's an enthusiast car which is my attraction to it.

And I don't fall into your 20 something demographics that you describe in your post. Far from it actually...

All of that being said, if the comments in this thread got you this fired-up, I can only imagine what the proposed "rain tax" in MD did to your blood pressure! I'm from MD and consider it home so I feel the pain... :happy0180:

[BioRage]

This car would be perfect if they got rid of the back seats!~

[supragoods]

Originally Posted by kioton32

Targa, Targa, Targa, Targa

whether it be low and slow, fast and loud, or riding on rails, make it unique and make it your own.

LOVE THAT QUOTE OF YOURS

[Dark]

It needs T top, not vert.

[Dadhawk]

I have nothing against convertibles, I own an '05 Mustang convertible after all, and don't really care if the car is track-worthy or not. I just don't like the way the convertible looks in the photos. It's just not quite right.

Even if "designed from the ground up" as a convertible, they forgot to consider the looks of it in the process. It just looks like a bathtub with the top down. If it were a two-seater (and shorter) I think it would work, but not without those changes.

It would be infinitely better as a Targa, (think Ferrari 308GTS, but better).

....and of course with LOUVERS!