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Robbie · 05-14-2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jshadeck

Have any of the overheat issue twins tried a air-water cooling option? Would open up the radiator to more air... Not sure what the downside is, im sure theres other up sides though

Air to water means terrible heat soak or trying to keep 25+ pounds of ice cold for a day.

It's a worse option than doing air to air and getting a proper radiator and a good oil cooler.

jshadeck · 05-14-2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Air to water means terrible heat soak or trying to keep 25+ pounds of ice cold for a day.

It's a worse option than doing air to air and getting a proper radiator and a good oil cooler.

The only time i saw ice used was for drag racing. I didnt realize the second radiator/coolant system heat soaked that badly... Was just an idea, prob stuck in my head cause i saw this the other day..

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RehabJeff86 · 05-14-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Come! The more the merrier!

R u tracking this Sunday at MRLS too?

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Originally Posted by robispec

Please do...might even have time for a ridealong! Got a helmet?

Ya i got helmet! We talking about Sunday May 19 at MRLS?

plucas · 05-14-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezoris

It's expensive, I will be installing everything this weekend and doing autox and track testing. All videos will be up by end of month. But you definitely want an oil cooler for track, and radiator for autox. Both is preferred.

Will be posting plenty of info. Be curious about Robisepcs build as well.

This. Proper cooling is expensive, but most go cheap because it doesn't make power

A nice 27mm denso radiator core (fabricated radiator) with an oil cooler (internal or external) with proper ducting would do the job well for FI or NA, but would be very pricey.

Amalgamo · 05-14-2013, 03:14 PM

I have two track days @ Sebring on my Vortech supercharger with the 6 psi and 9 psi set up. Tune from perrin and Oil cooler, no problems so far. I'm not a professional driver by any means, but have previous experience at this track with my Lotus Exige S260 and E90 M3. It is a day/night difference on this car for DD and great extra HP for the track, specially with the long straghts at Sebring. Now with the summer almost here, we'll see how it behaves.

robispec · 05-14-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RehabJeff86

R u tracking this Sunday at MRLS too?

Ya i got helmet! We talking about Sunday May 19 at MRLS?

U betcha!

sw20kosh · 05-14-2013, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RehabJeff86

R u tracking this Sunday at MRLS too?

Ya i got helmet! We talking about Sunday May 19 at MRLS?

Yes and Yes.

jshadeck · 05-15-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by plucas

This. Proper cooling is expensive, but most go cheap because it doesn't make power

A nice 27mm denso radiator core (fabricated radiator) with an oil cooler (internal or external) with proper ducting would do the job well for FI or NA, but would be very pricey.

Koyo rad is probably under 500$ and an oil cooler ive seen in the 200-700$ range. So theres FI guys overheating at the track and thats too much $ for them? If these cars are overheating w out FI, i will have no problem spending the 1000$ before FI...

plucas · 05-15-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jshadeck

Koyo rad is probably under 500$ and an oil cooler ive seen in the 200-700$ range. So theres FI guys overheating at the track and thats too much $ for them? If these cars are overheating w out FI, i will have no problem spending the 1000$ before FI...

Koyo rads are... well not what I would call nice, but I am a heat exchanger snob

Any rad for under $500 is probably very cheap components and not well made, or made in super high quantity and are very simple. The rad I am thinking would probably be at least $1000. The core cost alone would be $500 before manufacturing the radiator.

jshadeck · 05-15-2013, 06:53 PM

Im sure, theres always better options if ur willing to pay. But would the ~1000$ combo i described clear up the heat issues for the typical FI track car/driver? Or is the problem so bad with these cars that a more extreme approach is "required"?

WillRacer1jz · 05-15-2013, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I'm so jealous... I'm not going to MRLS this year

Me too

I miss Laguna

robispec · 05-20-2013, 07:00 AM

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDBRfV683xQ&feature=em-upload_owner"]YouTube[/ame]

fun at MRLS! enjoy

Water temps logged the same as NA still cycling the thermostat lol 195-198 the delta with the oil is 25 degrees
so oil temps running 225

Robi

celica73 · 05-20-2013, 08:49 AM

Video is private

robispec · 05-20-2013, 12:29 PM

fixed

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Amalgamo Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: SWP BRZ Limited Location: SW Florida Posts: 112 Thanks: 19 Thanked 40 Times in 30 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have two track days @ Sebring on my Vortech supercharger with the 6 psi and 9 psi set up. Tune from perrin and Oil cooler, no problems so far. I'm not a professional driver by any means, but have previous experience at this track with my Lotus Exige S260 and E90 M3. It is a day/night difference on this car for DD and great extra HP for the track, specially with the long straghts at Sebring. Now with the summer almost here, we'll see how it behaves. __________________ 12 SWP BRZ-L

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jshadeck Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Whiteout 6MT Location: carlisle, pa Posts: 773 Thanks: 3 Thanked 221 Times in 163 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Im sure, theres always better options if ur willing to pay. But would the ~1000$ combo i described clear up the heat issues for the typical FI track car/driver? Or is the problem so bad with these cars that a more extreme approach is "required"? __________________

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