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Old 12-01-2011, 07:14 PM   #43
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On the page where they show 1983, is that the Fujiwara Tofu Shop 86??? It's awesome that they'd pick that one
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Old 12-01-2011, 07:14 PM   #44
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it's not an interpretation, i'm just translating what was written in japanese.
direct quote from the article by lfa engine project director takamitsu okamoto 「ポート噴射の2リッターで200ps出そうとすると、回転数を7600以上ぐらいにもっていく必要がある 。燃費を確保するためにはある程度回転数を下げなければいけない」 literal translation: with a traditional port injection 2 liter, you would have to rev to 7600 or over in order to make 200ps. to achieve good mileage you have to lower revs to a certain extent.
No I totally understand that's what's written, but what I am saying is this: Honda could get 210 hp with port injection, 7000rpm (and mind you, low emissions). Toyota themselves got 200hp with port injection and 7000rpm in the 3S-GE 10 years ago. With this particular setup, they needed something else, but I think the reason there is an absence of for example valve lift control, which would allow for higher power while retaining economy, is that they don't want to share everything they have with Subaru.
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Old 12-01-2011, 07:15 PM   #45
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Thanks for sharing the info!

Loving the FRS!! yay
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Old 12-01-2011, 07:47 PM   #46
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No I totally understand that's what's written, but what I am saying is this: Honda could get 210 hp with port injection, 7000rpm (and mind you, low emissions). Toyota themselves got 200hp with port injection and 7000rpm in the 3S-GE 10 years ago. With this particular setup, they needed something else, but I think the reason there is an absence of for example valve lift control, which would allow for higher power while retaining economy, is that they don't want to share everything they have with Subaru.

so we have a conspiracy...
we're getting shafted.
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Old 12-01-2011, 07:56 PM   #47
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Here is a pic of the third headlight housing

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Based on information noted by other members of this forum and the 86 renderings in the brochure, I believe that Toyota will offer a third headlight housing at some point that is black and has a different style led accent. You can also reference images from carmagazine.co.uk from their test drive that clearly show these headlights.
Here is a pic of the black headlight housing
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Those are one-off unit for test purposes. Probably won't be available until 3rd production year.
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Those are one-off unit for test purposes. Probably won't be available until 3rd production year.
I dont think that they are one-off units. If you exam the brochure carefully youll note that three of the modified 86's have those housings.
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I am not doubting you there. But those are RHD headlights for JDM market.
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Old 12-01-2011, 08:48 PM   #51
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I am not doubting you there. But those are RHD headlights for JDM market.
im pretty sure the steering wheel is on the left side of the car. right side if your facing it like we are in that pic. but the wheel is on the side the us drives with
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Old 12-01-2011, 09:05 PM   #52
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Would love to see those headlights photoshopped onto the FR-S Photo
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Old 12-01-2011, 09:10 PM   #53
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lol might have to use the old DIY oven trick, Bake your headlight to open em to paint it LOL
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LOL guys. The picture above is Scion Prototype tested by Insideline (and maybe Motortrend too), not Toyota prototype. If those headlight are the third headlight for 86, they are second headlight housing for FR-S. I pointed out once, and no body seemed to care about it.
Edit: Headlight housing has carbon accent. The silver stripe has alloy/magnesium look instead of chrome and is bigger than JDM one. DRL is different from the high spec headlight. It's definitely a left hand drive car. Here is the close up picture.





Source: http://www.insideline.com/scion/fr-s...rst-drive.html
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:16 PM   #55
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i wants that USB stick too
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They should include those with every car for the 2013 model year!

Those headlights may also be euro spec preproduction or just plan euro spec headlights can be different from JDM (and with the LHD cutoff pattern then tend to be at least slightly different).
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