Koni Suspension Components

[AZP Installs]

Originally Posted by No Limit Motorsport

I bet it is going to be an insert for the front, and a bolt in for the rear.

Ding ding ding...

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[Grimlock]

Originally Posted by Turn in Concepts

The adjustment in the rear is easy to get to. Just pull the carpet back a bit. The fronts are also pretty easy, but with the original camber plates we have we can't use the adjustment knobs. The NEW (wait till you guys see these!) camber plates allow for enough room on the nut to use the provided knobs.

There is no perch height adjustment like on some koni shocks.

They work amazingly well with the RCE yellows that we have on the car. The yellows feel pretty good on the stock dampers, but used on the konis there is a heightened level of grip. The level of control over the stock dampers when hitting large bumps is amazing.

Tony

I'd love a set of Koni shocks on RCE Yellows. I just won't do inserts, though. That's a half-assed solution in my opinion. I don't feel comfortable re-using the stock shocks on aftermarket springs, so I'll wait for good shocks or go to a coilover setup.

I'm getting itchy and I really want to get a new suspension, but I won't go with a half baked solution.

[AZP Installs]

Originally Posted by Grimlock

I'd love a set of Koni shocks on RCE Yellows. I just won't do inserts, though. That's a half-assed solution in my opinion. I don't feel comfortable re-using the stock shocks on aftermarket springs, so I'll wait for good shocks or go to a coilover setup.

I'm getting itchy and I really want to get a new suspension, but I won't go with a half baked solution.

What is your reasoning behind not liking inserts? Koni has successfully been using the insert system for years. We have actually raced on Koni inserts on all 4 corners for sprint and enduros. If they are installed properly/professionally, inserts work as well as any "regular" struts. We've installed probably 300 sets maybe more in the past 10 years and they perform well and haven't had any issues with longevity. The Koni lifetime warranty is also nice for a street driven car as well.

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[7thgear]

Originally Posted by dale.m

I ran this exact setup on my D Street Prepared 2002 VW GTI and won just about every autocross I entered by a good second or two. I'm considering a similar setup for this car as the control arms look like they could take a 20mm-30mm drop.

you don't win auto-crosses by 2 seconds from a damper and spring upgrade, sorry broskies, i think you've just had poor competition.

[Grimlock]

Originally Posted by AZP Installs

What is your reasoning behind not liking inserts? Koni has successfully been using the insert system for years. We have actually raced on Koni inserts on all 4 corners for sprint and enduros. If they are installed properly/professionally, inserts work as well as any "regular" struts. We've installed probably 300 sets maybe more in the past 10 years and they perform well and haven't had any issues with longevity. The Koni lifetime warranty is also nice for a street driven car as well.

-Mike Paisan

I'm not saying that inserts won't perform well enough. I just don't like cutting apart perfectly functional shocks that I could possibly resell or put back on the car when I want to sell it. I'd rather get full-bodied shocks.

[AZP Installs]

Originally Posted by Grimlock

I'm not saying that inserts won't perform well enough. I just don't like cutting apart perfectly functional shocks that I could possibly resell or put back on the car when I want to sell it. I'd rather get full-bodied shocks.

Gotcha. I've always just left em in or sold the swapped Konis to someone with a stock setup if I were parting out my car.

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[gmookher]

I will keep the OE springs and struts to sell if and when the car is sold minus suspension. Once can off load the custom blue anno GC/Koni setup I just ordered for a bit more $$ than the cut-n-gut I considered. The coilovers will keep some value should I ever ebay those.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by AZP Installs

What is your reasoning behind not liking inserts? Koni has successfully been using the insert system for years. We have actually raced on Koni inserts on all 4 corners for sprint and enduros. If they are installed properly/professionally, inserts work as well as any "regular" struts. We've installed probably 300 sets maybe more in the past 10 years and they perform well and haven't had any issues with longevity. The Koni lifetime warranty is also nice for a street driven car as well.

inserts are a pain in the ass if you don't have access to drills, tube cutting tools and a general work area that would allow you to leak fluid all over and not give a fuck

if i was to get inserts i would have to pay a mechanic quite a hefty sum to install them, the final cost would end up being more than a competitor's off the shelf ready to use unit.

Not everyone has personal garage to tinker in.

Hell, I barely have a space to store my jack and tools!

[JoeBoxer]

The only way i'll buy the inserts is if somebody (RCE) puts them in a stock housing and allows me to send my old ones back as a core...

[AZP Installs]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

inserts are a pain in the ass if you don't have access to drills, tube cutting tools and a general work area that would allow you to leak fluid all over and not give a fuck

if i was to get inserts i would have to pay a mechanic quite a hefty sum to install them, the final cost would end up being more than a competitor's off the shelf ready to use unit.

Not everyone has personal garage to tinker in.

Hell, I barely have a space to store my jack and tools!

Interesting. When we started we did them on he city streets of NYC. No garage at all. As for making a mess, an oil pan you use for oil changes is all you need to catch the fluid. Cutting tools are a pipe cutter from Home Depot under $15.

I am unaware of any off the shelf units with the performance and warranty of the Konis in he price range.

We only charge about $90 more than a regular spring install to do Konis. So for under 300 labor they can be installed.

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[Calum]

Originally Posted by AZP Installs

Interesting. When we started we did them on he city streets of NYC. No garage at all. As for making a mess, an oil pan you use for oil changes is all you need to catch the fluid. Cutting tools are a pipe cutter from Home Depot under $15.

I am unaware of any off the shelf units with the performance and warranty of the Konis in he price range.

We only charge about $90 more than a regular spring install to do Konis. So for under 300 labor they can be installed.

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Nice, I wish you guys were near me.

You gotta appreciate that something like this could be intimidating to someone that's never done it before.

[Racecomp Engineering]

I'll admit it's not something that's fun to do, but Konis are pretty darn good shocks and the only option at this point. Bilsteins will come as a full replacement, and be awesome, and we will have a custom valved sport option....but it's gonna be a while.

The inserts are intimidating but I don't know of anyone that's screwed it up. I do recommend getting an extra set of used front struts to use as your donors though.

- Andrew

[Kido1986]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

I'll admit it's not something that's fun to do, but Konis are pretty darn good shocks and the only option at this point. Bilsteins will come as a full replacement, and be awesome, and we will have a custom valved sport option....but it's gonna be a while.

The inserts are intimidating but I don't know of anyone that's screwed it up. I do recommend getting an extra set of used front struts to use as your donors though.

- Andrew

I assume (I don't know much about RCE so forgive me) that the revalves will be very well matched to the RCE springs? They (Springs) are on my short list of springs to do STX autocrossing until I can afford JRZ/KWs.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by AZP Installs

Interesting. When we started we did them on he city streets of NYC. No garage at all. As for making a mess, an oil pan you use for oil changes is all you need to catch the fluid. Cutting tools are a pipe cutter from Home Depot under $15.

Listen if you want to measure ****s I'm all for that, there are many things you can do if you have the will and determination.

Originally Posted by AZP Installs

We only charge about $90 more than a regular spring install to do Konis. So for under 300 labor they can be installed.

thats already 300 more than zero, the cost for me to do a regular install myself without having to cut drill and drain anything. A torque wrench and a few 14mm sockets is all one needs. For someone like me your 90 dollars extra is actually 390 extra because.

Originally Posted by AZP Installs

I am unaware of any off the shelf units with the performance and warranty of the Konis in he price range.

assuming we're talking generic cars, since nothing for this has been announced yet, bilstein sports come to mind as a direct and quality competitor.