Have you hit 200whp NA? - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

2forme · 01-07-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by VSGTS14

it may show 1whp. i believe rallysport direct did a back to back comparison. the cf driveshaft + lightweight wheels + lightweight flywheel + lightweight rotors all = lower rotational mass, not necessarily adding power. but it will respond to the 200whp way easier than a car with factory heavy parts.

Even if they make 190whp without the driveshaft, 4 isn't that bad and well within the margin of error. Too bad they're so far away. At that point, might as well drive to Visconti :-/.... Great to see other shops giving love to the 86 though!

7thgear · 01-07-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchmaN

lol I knew you would come back to comments, no about 2300$ the list is in my signature.

that's excellent!

ScionRacer · 01-07-2013, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VSGTS14

it may show 1whp. i believe rallysport direct did a back to back comparison. the cf driveshaft + lightweight wheels + lightweight flywheel + lightweight rotors all = lower rotational mass, not necessarily adding power. but it will respond to the 200whp way easier than a car with factory heavy parts.

Actually there is HP to be gained, parasitic horsepower. Roughly 40 hp is lost on the engines through the driveline.I have seen drive shafts good for 1-2hp regained.There are other like full super synthetics on complete engine/driveline for like 5hp regain.Obviously we cannot get it all back but some are better than none.

Allch Chcar · 01-07-2013, 06:36 PM

Heh, awesome results!

Makes it harder for me to wait...

It's funny how the OP asked for Non-E85 results only and no one really listened to him.

WatchmaN · 01-07-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 2forme

I hit 200whp.

Intake, Exhaust, E85 Tune.

E85 is for cheaters(say's the guy that is jealous that he can't get it in Canada) lol

But seriously, I don't know what is gonna happen in the long run with E85, if problems gonna come up.

2forme · 01-07-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchmaN

E85 is for cheaters(say's the guy that is jealous that he can't get it in Canada) lol

But seriously, I don't know what is gonna happen in the long run with E85, if problems gonna come up.

Yea I don't run it all the time, only a few times during the spring/summer.

Mathewgzlz · 01-07-2013, 11:58 PM

I did a dyno on 93 octane with injen intake and berk single exit muffler delete got 191.8 rwhp Thts without a tune Name: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1357617474.903047.jpg
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2forme · 01-08-2013, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mathewgzlz

I did a dyno on 93 octane with injen intake and berk single exit muffler delete got 191.8 rwhp Thts without a tuneAttachment 24721

That torque curve looks a bit different than most dynos of this car. Care to share the AFR curve?

ultra · 01-08-2013, 08:38 AM

I'd be curious to hear what kind of gains the guys who have done I/H/E and a tune on 93 octane are getting.

Curious how close 'full bolt ons' will get to 200whp and what combos are working best so far.

WatchmaN · 01-08-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mathewgzlz

I did a dyno on 93 octane with injen intake and berk single exit muffler delete got 191.8 rwhp Thts without a tuneAttachment 24721

Sorry but hard to believe. I would like to see a base run stock

The Slow One · 01-08-2013, 06:37 PM

This is with Afe Takeda Intake, Agency Power Header/up pipe/frontpipe/catback, Visconti's Stage 1 Tune. 93 octane.

red is before tune, blue is after.

GTB/ZR-1 · 01-08-2013, 06:52 PM

^^^

Red is totally stock? Are those SAE or STD #s?

If so, the juice looks hardly worth the squeeze, unfortunately...

Thx for posting

OrbitalEllipses · 01-08-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GTB/ZR-1

^^^

Red is totally stock? Are those SAE or STD #s?

If so, the juice looks hardly worth the squeeze, unfortunately...

Thx for posting

2L N/A....that's what bolt-ons will look like.

enjoyminutemaid · 01-08-2013, 07:40 PM

I think it looks good. Look how much area under the curve! So much more torque through the mid range and top end. With E85 tune, who knows...probably close to 200whp on that dyno, fwiw. Rather than focusing on reaching 200whp, I'd be more impressed to see a solid 30-35whp gain with only bolt-ons and a tune. That would really be something, especially with stock location cats.

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enjoyminutemaid Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited WRB Manual Location: RI/MA Posts: 212 Thanks: 185 Thanked 46 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think it looks good. Look how much area under the curve! So much more torque through the mid range and top end. With E85 tune, who knows...probably close to 200whp on that dyno, fwiw. Rather than focusing on reaching 200whp, I'd be more impressed to see a solid 30-35whp gain with only bolt-ons and a tune. That would really be something, especially with stock location cats.

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