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Old 09-26-2012, 08:47 PM   #43
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Hmmm my final events of the season are 10/27 & 10/28....
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:43 PM   #44
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From my understanding, Sam has sized this bar to be a modest rate increase, such that it can be used in a variety of applications... sounds like to be suitable for both the stock and ST crowds
And for me to expand on what Tim did....

My bar isn't massively stiff. I did this for two reasons.

1. For CS cars, you can't change the rear bar if you do the front which means we don't want a massively stiff front bar. The car has a really good differential in terms of power down, and gets some negative camber and looks to have a good camber curve. We want "just enough" front bar to make the car more stable, without going too far.

2. For cars that run standard lowering springs or coil-overs, those are ALL stiffer rate in the rear than the front. They are more rear-biased on stiffness, which isn't really what I think is the best way to go. In fact I've changed my rates on my KW's to make that the other way around, and I wanted the bar to be able to work for folks with springs and/or coil-overs. So again, we want more front bar, but not massively stiff bars.

There is a 3rd reason. Common sense. Roll isn't a bad thing, we need not put a bridge girder on it to make it turn. We are fine tuning things, not reinventing the wheel.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:17 PM   #45
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2. For cars that run standard lowering springs or coil-overs, those are ALL stiffer rate in the rear than the front. They are more rear-biased on stiffness, which isn't really what I think is the best way to go. In fact I've changed my rates on my KW's to make that the other way around, and I wanted the bar to be able to work for folks with springs and/or coil-overs. So again, we want more front bar, but not massively stiff bars.
Hey Sam,

Actually our RCE Yellow springs are not stiffer in the rear. I think we are the only ones that do this for lowering springs. We agree with you that most are going with too much rear bias.

Your front sway bar sounds good!

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Old 09-27-2012, 04:31 PM   #46
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That's good to hear! I'd love a little more detail (feel free to PM me) on the spring rates, because I'm looking for something more suitable to recommend. And once I get the bar thing rolling maybe we can work something out for you guys.
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:56 PM   #47
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Old 09-28-2012, 04:58 PM   #48
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I love that so many great vendors are working together on these cars. Teamwork FTW!
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:14 PM   #49
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The march forward continues.... Pricing is done. $169.00 will be the number. Still trying to have them ready before the end of the month, but these things take time. I'm still going as fast as I can, I promise!!!
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:16 PM   #50
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So excited for this!

Can't wait to get this on and take the rear toe out of the car. I hope we can get them in time to install for the event on the 28th
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:31 PM   #51
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WOW great price. are you going to offer some kind of warranty on the part? i will defiantly be picking one up come the first of the year before autocross winter heats.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:24 PM   #52
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Great price Sam!! What color are yours bars? It has zero impact on my buying decision I'm just curious lol
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Great price Sam!! What color are yours bars? It has zero impact on my buying decision I'm just curious lol
If its up in the air as for a color i vote red, red makes things faster. Lol
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Oh because I'm not all flashy, don't blog endlessly about everything I do, and just want functional stiff I will likely stay with good old black. Think model t...
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Exciting times. Great pricing.
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I think you know how much I want the bar! lol. Now, on to the spring rate discussion. Stop it! I'm already on the fence with the whole RTR or STX thing. Having Sam and Racecomp working together on the suspension is a sure fire way to make me open up the wallet. Stop it before I spend money! : )
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