BRZ Inventory

[lowlevel]

Originally Posted by Mim

In AU the 86 comes in two trim levels of GT base and GTS being the higher. BRZ's come in a mono spec, but pretty loaded. All have an options list longer than my arm.

People keep asking me if I got 'the TRD package' but best I can figure.. there are no 'packages' here in Canada..

I beleive you just pay for the standard/base car + each option you want or whatever the dealer decided to slap onto the car if you want one off the lot.

Toyota includes a spare tire here... no can of goop.

[Rakshaa]

Originally Posted by lowlevel

That's the current price range... mine was $35k-ish anyway...

Wow, it's crazy that the current 2017s are even more expensive than my monogram was a few years ago. I looked on the Toyota website and damn - the car has jumped $4k in MSRP since launch!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Rakshaa

Wow, it's crazy that the current 2017s are even more expensive than my monogram was a few years ago. I looked on the Toyota website and damn - the car has jumped $4k in MSRP since launch!

Yep people bitched about Scion but there were reasons the cars were cheaper through them. Welcome to Toyota world folks.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by lowlevel

People keep asking me if I got 'the TRD package' but best I can figure.. there are no 'packages' here in Canada..

I beleive you just pay for the standard/base car + each option you want or whatever the dealer decided to slap onto the car if you want one off the lot.

Toyota includes a spare tire here... no can of goop.

You are correct.

[why?]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

No No, No, No No No, No
For the hundredth time you can not apply the current exchange rate to another county's price and say "but that is only $XXX" In Australia it is $40K they do not pay in US dollars. What happens when the US dollar drops and the Aus one goes up? Does their car get cheaper? Do Americans really think that other countries raise and lower their prices for things when the exchange rate changes? No it stays the same. Exchange rate does not reflect the value of a purchase in another country it is just what you would pay if using US dollars to pay for it there. The car that is $40K there could still be $40K here since the price is set for our economy not the exchange rate between the US and Aus dollar.

You are totally missing the point. The car in the USA is about $26k. They are absolutely not going to nearly double the price here to $40k. It will not happen whatsoever.

The price of the car in Australia is about the price of the car in the USA. Why you think they are going to add a few features and nearly double the price in the USA is beyond me, anyone else, or basic math.

If they add trim levels they will mirror the prices that keep the car comptetive in the USA, they will not all of a sudden decide the car should nearly double in price. It would never ever sell at that price.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by why?

You are totally missing the point. The car in the USA is about $26k. They are absolutely not going to nearly double the price here to $40k. It will not happen whatsoever.

The price of the car in Australia is about the price of the car in the USA. Why you think they are going to add a few features and nearly double the price in the USA is beyond me, anyone else, or basic math.

If they add trim levels they will mirror the prices that keep the car comptetive in the USA, they will not all of a sudden decide the car should nearly double in price. It would never ever sell at that price.

I got your point and didn't mean that it WOULD be $40K here simply that using the exchange rate to make a price is not accurate. I don't care what the prices are elsewhere simply applying the exchange rate is not a way to give it value. The people buying the Toyotas in other countries are paying more end of story.
Cruise on up to a Canadian site and see what the 17s are costing now. The GTS trim at $35K is not out of the picture.


To make it very basic (yes it is rough).
Australian average income is $56K Aus The car cost $40K Aus 71% of income.
USA average income is $51K USD The car costs $28K USD 54% of income


Or if you really insist in using the exchange rate the you need to apply it to both the price AND the income:
Australian average income $41USD car costs $28KUSD (71%)


For the car to cost "the same" in Australia as the USA it would have to sell for $33K Aus or $23K USD.

[Mim]

Originally Posted by softgrip

Heh... did you fix the unit not turning on for a minute or more when you start the car?

Yes! Turned out that when I disconnected the battery to install my STI push starter, the head unit reset to default settings including what phone type. Had to switch it over from Android to iPhone Carplay and then everything came good.

I still don't use Carplay, but at least being set to the right phone it also fixed the delayed sync to the phone. The head unit otherwise previously started straight away, but just took a long time to realize I had a phone synced via blue tooth.

[Mim]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I got your point and didn't mean that it WOULD be $40K here simply that using the exchange rate to make a price is not accurate. I don't care what the prices are elsewhere simply applying the exchange rate is not a way to give it value. The people buying the Toyotas in other countries are paying more end of story.
Cruise on up to a Canadian site and see what the 17s are costing now. The GTS trim at $35K is not out of the picture.

To make it very basic (yes it is rough).
Australian average income is $56K Aus The car cost $40K Aus 71% of income.
USA average income is $51K USD The car costs $28K USD 54% of income

Or if you really insist in using the exchange rate the you need to apply it to both the price AND the income:
Australian average income $41USD car costs $28KUSD (71%)

For the car to cost "the same" in Australia as the USA it would have to sell for $33K Aus or $23K USD.

Tcoat raises a very valid argument. You also have to factor the impact of different taxes on the purchase of a car in other countries, which will throw the price out. There could be import tariffs on imports to help protect local production, which was the case in Australia till they were lowered and mostly removed, which lead to the closure of local production in Australia. Ford just stopped local production, GM/Holden follows in 2017 and Toyota soon after.

Then in Australia's case there are truly retarded things like the LCT (Luxury Car Tax) placing a 30% tax on anything over a threshold of around 60K. Boats, houses, collecting art, nothing else gets an LCT, but cars do so that base model Nissan GTR is $190k AUD. Porsche Cayman base is $110k, Lambo Huracan LP 610-4 is $428k and for something closer in price to the twins the Miata 1.6L is 32K AUD

Adding everything Tcoat and I myself added makes comparing one countries car prices to another a moot point.

A better way to understand Tcoats point about the 86 climbing in price is to take careful note of all the small extra's in specification being added from year to year and work out their relative values. Simple stuff like the underbody cladding for smoothing airflow was missing from the FRS and people had to source it elsewhere, but the AU market always had it on all their cars along with the knee padding, frameless mirrors, illuminated vanity mirrors, puddle lights on opening doors and many more.

At the end of the day though its important to realize that even if these items are spec'd on the US 86 going forward, it would end up being far more expensive for you to track these down at a later time than to simply buy it on the car as standard. Its easier and cheaper for the factory to standardize one primary trim for all countries and as a result of spreading the cost of each feature across the entire production line, to keep the increase of prices to the end customer lower. Look past the increase in sticker price and take a look at what really is something people have been screaming for wanting all along... a JDM spec 86.

[jtaeric]

Originally Posted by softgrip

I was told by my Subaru guy, in Australia, that the ratio is like 10 GT86 to every 1 BRZ. Some marketing agreement.

Then again, he was a carsalesman

For what I know, it was 10 to 1 ratio, but it is changing. The 10:1 ratio was when they started to produce, which is 2012. As I heard, 2916 models' ratio has come to around 5:1 and Subaru maybe willing to produce more BRZ in the future.