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KR-S · 04-04-2017, 01:56 AM

So since this was resurrected from the dead, what car did your friend end up getting? How is it?

hmdqyg · 04-08-2017, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo

Yep. The "poor man's" GTR

The poor man's GTR should be 370z

hmdqyg · 04-08-2017, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KR-S 86

So since this was resurrected from the dead, what car did your friend end up getting? How is it?

As I previously stated, he will buy an Audi A5 next year...

Cole · 04-08-2017, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hmdqyg

As I previously stated, he will buy an Audi A5 next year...

Damn, going from a 12,000 budget for a salvage titled car to a 47,000 car.

funwheeldrive · 04-08-2017, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hmdqyg

The poor man's GTR should be 370z

Rwd 2 seater is the poor man's AWD turbocharged 2+2?

Poor man's GTR should be the EvoX.

hmdqyg · 04-10-2017, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole

Damn, going from a 12,000 budget for a salvage titled car to a 47,000 car.

He is planning to spend the same to buy an older one with high mileage

hmdqyg · 04-15-2017, 07:29 PM

I might not be able to see his A5 car because he is planning to buy it next year and I should have left this country already by that time.

hmdqyg · 03-18-2018, 11:38 PM

Update: the Altima is up for sale. He should buy a BMW 328i as soon as the Altima is sold.

guybo · 03-19-2018, 11:30 AM

I never had my Gen dyno'd but , I see mildly tuned Gen's with bolt ons putting down around 250 HP. The genCoupe forum has a thread much like our forum for dyno numbers. Obviously, the thread is full of full builds, mildly modded and wildly modded, but for under $1000 you can squeeze out 260 HP peak. This is about average with bolt ons for BK2 2.0T GenCoupe. It weighs 3400 lbs stock, I trimmed off 100 lbs pretty easy, so lets say it's 3300 lbs. This all varies a lot according to the tune and mods, obviously.

That's 157.6 WHP/ton (using a short ton, as standard). If we went with stock.... 240 WHP for 145 WHP/ton. Of course, the Gen has a LOT more torque (though with the base level 2.0T, it comes with an open diff, so that torque is just useful to shred a rear tire), though E85 really does increase torque by quite a bit. The twins have a much better clutch and driveline so it's not as big of a difference as you'd think.

I have had my car dyno'ed and for much less than $1000 in power-related mods, I put down 197 WHP and I have weighed my car at 2735 lbs. My major mod is E85 and OFT tune.

That's 144.1 WHP/ton. That's getting real close to the stock 2.0T and given the reduced weight of the twins, it'd be a close race in a straight line even.

BigHugeFatGuy · 03-23-2018, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by guybo

It weighs 3400 lbs stock,

Went someplace a few months back and parked next to a Gen Coupe. Driver was coming out as I was going in. He started up conversation, saying he looked at FRS/BRZ because he wanted a fun driver's car but he didn't like lack of power so he went Hyundai. I shrugged, said "Its a little over 2700 lbs, so I'm fine with it." He said, "Yeah, but mine's 350 hp and weighs 2,800 lbs."
I just said, "I think you need to Google that."

That pretty much sums up my opinion of Genesis coupe drivers.

guybo · 03-23-2018, 02:44 PM

The 3.8 weighs more. IIRC its 3600 lbs

BigHugeFatGuy · 03-23-2018, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by guybo

The 3.8 weighs more. IIRC its 3600 lbs

Dayum. It's a Korean Camaro then....

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KR-S Sporadic Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Drives: 2016 Halo FR-S M/T Location: Earth Posts: 3,145 Thanks: 5,221 Thanked 3,552 Times in 1,746 Posts Mentioned: 50 Post(s) Tagged: 33 Thread(s)	So since this was resurrected from the dead, what car did your friend end up getting? How is it?

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hmdqyg Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Drives: Miata&Box Location: SoCal Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I might not be able to see his A5 car because he is planning to buy it next year and I should have left this country already by that time.

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hmdqyg Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Drives: Miata&Box Location: SoCal Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Update: the Altima is up for sale. He should buy a BMW 328i as soon as the Altima is sold.

03-19-2018, 11:30 AM	#51
guybo Huge E85 fan! Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Tampa, FL, USA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 539 Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I never had my Gen dyno'd but , I see mildly tuned Gen's with bolt ons putting down around 250 HP. The genCoupe forum has a thread much like our forum for dyno numbers. Obviously, the thread is full of full builds, mildly modded and wildly modded, but for under $1000 you can squeeze out 260 HP peak. This is about average with bolt ons for BK2 2.0T GenCoupe. It weighs 3400 lbs stock, I trimmed off 100 lbs pretty easy, so lets say it's 3300 lbs. This all varies a lot according to the tune and mods, obviously. That's 157.6 WHP/ton (using a short ton, as standard). If we went with stock.... 240 WHP for 145 WHP/ton. Of course, the Gen has a LOT more torque (though with the base level 2.0T, it comes with an open diff, so that torque is just useful to shred a rear tire), though E85 really does increase torque by quite a bit. The twins have a much better clutch and driveline so it's not as big of a difference as you'd think. I have had my car dyno'ed and for much less than $1000 in power-related mods, I put down 197 WHP and I have weighed my car at 2735 lbs. My major mod is E85 and OFT tune. That's 144.1 WHP/ton. That's getting real close to the stock 2.0T and given the reduced weight of the twins, it'd be a close race in a straight line even.

03-23-2018, 02:44 PM	#53
guybo Huge E85 fan! Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Tampa, FL, USA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 539 Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The 3.8 weighs more. IIRC its 3600 lbs

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