Corner Weight Question

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

My point was more, if you don't know how to communicate what you're looking for, or know what you're looking for, I don't see the benefit. [1]

This isn't meant as an attack, but if you can't figure out to put on the stock suspension or access other data to find stock Weight Distribution, can you really talk about hysteresis, where the "knee" is in the valving, etc. [2]

In reality, amateurs like us that may be quicker than most guys at a track day, typically still don't have the skills/feel, testing, etc, to spec dampers. It becomes kind of a "street cred" thing on what you spent. [3]

1/ As I mentioned previously I don't have to know the details to gain a benefit.
2/ My point is that corner weights are affected by spring height regardless of which springs are on the car. There doesn't seem to be an "objective" corner weight. If I put the original shocks back on the car I am getting oem corner weights. I was wanting corner weights independent of the spring height/rate. I will happily accept that this is not doable or it is not the done way.
3/ I have no intention of speccing a damper curve. I'm not even thinking about it. I am relying on their expertise to valve the dampers appropriately given the spring rates and my intended use. They also want to know the tyres I am using and the sort of lap times I am doing at the tracks I visit.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

1/ As I mentioned previously I don't have to know the details to gain a benefit.
2/ My point is that corner weights are affected by spring height regardless of which springs are on the car. There doesn't seem to be an "objective" corner weight. If I put the original shocks back on the car I am getting oem corner weights. I was wanting corner weights independent of the spring height/rate. I will happily accept that this is not doable or it is not the done way.
3/ I have no intention of speccing a damper curve. I'm not even thinking about it. I am relying on their expertise to valve the dampers appropriately given the spring rates and my intended use. They also want to know the tyres I am using and the sort of lap times I am doing at the tracks I visit.

Excellent.

Do you have benchmarks you'll be able to compare to once you get the new stuff on?

I know on my Miata at Hallett, going from Flyin' Miata VMaxx coilovers to the 949 Racing BGK setup (ASTs) I dropped about 2 secs a lap on the same tires that were a year older. Hallett being my local track that's pretty technical and bumpy in places.

[Northwest86]

I don't know that you can benchmark something like suspension. We've had 2 second differences in lap times on different days on the exact same car setups simply because of temperatures, how rubbered in the track was after rain etc.

All you can really have is a dyno graph that shows something that you may be looking for in particular and the additional confidence/poise that only a good driver spending some solid time can say. And even them it could be preferance. It's like brake pads. There is no "better" just different. Many F1 drivers use different pads/rotors etc even on the same teams.