STX Rules and Setup Questions

[Eric1855]

Originally Posted by G_Ride

I believe oil coolers are allowed in SP.

You're right it is in there under allowable mods for SP as long as they meet certain conditions.

[EN2_Squirrel]

Can the FR-S use the BRZ rear wing?Rear Diffusor? It is in the accessories catalog, it is not spt/sti. or does the FR-S have to use http://www.scion.com/cars/FR-S/acces...wAll&view=grid

[BlaineWasHere]

Originally Posted by EN2_Squirrel

Can the FR-S use the BRZ rear wing?Rear Diffusor? It is in the accessories catalog, it is not spt/sti. or does the FR-S have to use http://www.scion.com/cars/FR-S/acces...wAll&view=grid

Yes, that's the only fully legal wing/spoiler you can use for STX.

However I'd b surprised if anyone protests a glue on lip spoiler locally because we all know it doesn't do anything. BUT don't quote me on that.

[whataboutbob]

Originally Posted by EN2_Squirrel

Can the FR-S use the BRZ rear wing?Rear Diffusor? It is in the accessories catalog, it is not spt/sti. or does the FR-S have to use http://www.scion.com/cars/FR-S/acces...wAll&view=grid

14.2.F.1 and 12.3 are relevant.

Even though they are the same car, not sure if the fact that you are talking about a BRZ wing on a FR-S will be allowable as 12.3 references "make", and in this case one is a Subaru and the other is a Scion.

[xwd]

Originally Posted by EN2_Squirrel

Can the FR-S use the BRZ rear wing?Rear Diffusor? It is in the accessories catalog, it is not spt/sti. or does the FR-S have to use http://www.scion.com/cars/FR-S/acces...wAll&view=grid

Are you saying the BRZ spoiler is in the accessories catalog? If it is then you could use it, if it's not then you can't.

The rear diffuser isn't legal for either car in STX. It's a port installed option on the BRZ and there is no allowance for a rear diffuser.

[EN2_Squirrel]

Originally Posted by dwx

Are you saying the BRZ spoiler is in the accessories catalog? If it is then you could use it, if it's not then you can't.

The rear diffuser isn't legal for either car in STX. It's a port installed option on the BRZ and there is no allowance for a rear diffuser.

Yes both the deck lid spoiler and rear bumper diffuser are in the accessories catalog. If the diffuser is a factory accessory, I really cant see why i cant have it. It is not spt/sti/trd. Port installed?


F. Addition of spoilers, splitters, rear wings, bumper covers, valances,
side skirts, and non-functional sccops/vents is allowed provided that
either:
1. It is a production part which is standard or optional equipment of a
US model of the vehicle.
“Model” is defined in Section 12.3.
2. It is listed in the vehicle manufacturer’s US accessory catalog
for that vehicle for normal highway use. This does not allow for
parts sold through a manufacturer’s performance catalog (e.g.,
Ford Racing, HPD, MazdaSpeed, Mopar Performance, Mugen,
NISMO, SPT, TRD, etc).
Parts must be installed as directed by the manufacturer. Exact rep
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licas (including weight) from alternate sources are also permitted.

[piknockout]

F. Addition of spoilers, splitters, rear wings, bumper covers, valances,
side skirts, and non-functional sccops/vents is allowed provided that
either:

Notice it doesn't say diffusers. There is not an STX allowance for diffusers, port installed, in a catalog, or otherwise.

[xwd]

Yeah when I looked at the rules last year, the rear diffuser, as useless as it might be, would bump you up to Modified.

Factory rear diffusers are legal in all classes, so port-installed versus factory makes a difference. It's an orderable item on the BRZ when you order the car, but the fact it's port installed makes it not legal.

[brianL.]

Thanks for the info!! I plan to be in c-stock this year but as time goes on this will be the class I'll run.

[raul]

Originally Posted by whataboutbob

I'm pretty sure you are right, provided the one that is installed meets that criteria. No aftermarket stuff though.

Why wouldn't the Five-Axis lip spoiler be allowed? They're pre-installed on a TON of cars sitting at dealer lots. If you buy a car with it would you be forced to remove it?

[xwd]

Originally Posted by raul

Why wouldn't the Five-Axis lip spoiler be allowed? They're pre-installed on a TON of cars sitting at dealer lots. If you buy a car with it would you be forced to remove it?

Yes. If it's not in the OEM accessory catalog or installed as a factory item (meaning it was on the car when it went on the boat in Japan), it's not legal.

[NYR Solo]

Originally Posted by dwx

Yes. If it's not in the OEM accessory catalog or installed as a factory item (meaning it was on the car when it went on the boat in Japan), it's not legal.

Mostly wrong. The 5 Axis piece is not OK unless it is a full OEM replica. More importantly:

Originally Posted by Solo Rules, 2014 Draft

12.4 STANDARD PART

Originally Posted by Solo Rules, 2014 Draft

An item of standard or optional equipment that could have been or-
dered with the car, installed on the factory production line, and delivered
through a dealer in the United States. Port-installed options provided
by the factory are considered to be the same as those installed on the
factory production line. Dealer-installed options or deletions (except as
required by factory directives), no matter how common or what their
origin, are not included in this definition. This definition does not allow
the updating or backdating of parts.

edit: stupid vBulletin.

[xwd]

Originally Posted by NYR Solo

Mostly wrong. The 5 Axis piece is not OK unless it is a full OEM replica. More importantly:



edit: stupid vBulletin.

The "Yes" part was in response to if he would have to remove it.

Did they change the port versus factory wording at some point? I thought there was a bunch of hulabaloo some years ago with the WRX/STi short-shifter because it was port installed? Or maybe I'm just getting old and mixing up dealer installed versus factory/port installed.

[NYR Solo]

I have been aware of the rule for a number of years. I don't plan to search for old rulebooks to check when.