Scion FR-S OFFICIALLY REVEALED (Details, Specs + Live and Press Photos)

[balance]

Chupa, Thanks for the info.

[DRACHENV6]

awesome! Things are looking great. I hope pricing is good. I am going to get the lowest spec and use it as a weekend warrior. I'm not sure how this car will do in the snow so it will probably hibernate in the winter.

[aliphian]

Originally Posted by KAuss

The LSD is the cheap type anyways, so if you are a true drifter you will switch it out anyways... Wasn't it clutch type not torsen?

I believe it was the other way 'round... (i.e. Torsen.)

[aliphian]

It's going to be sad to see the insurance rates on this car after a year or two. All of these DoRI DOrI DOrIFtO's are going to destroy the poor things. At least spare parts will be easy to find.

[BANGER]

Originally Posted by aliphian

It's going to be sad to see the insurance rates on this car after a year or two. All of these DoRI DOrI DOrIFtO's are going to destroy the poor things. At least spare parts will be easy to find.

"If Takumi can do it, so can I"

[ichitaka05]

Alright, I'm wake now... I wouldn't say I had the best sleep, but here are some info & Q&A for ya

Asked Craig (SCION rep who's invovle in this this project)
Q1. Wheels Bolt Pattern. 5x114.3 or 5x100?
A1. 99.9% it'll be 5x100

Q2. Base Price Tag?
A2. Sadly, couldn't get exact number, he said its more than current TC.

Q3. TRD Parts Coming to US?
A3. They're still deciding, but they're planning on it.

Q4. Final Weight of This Car?
A4. -+1~3 lbs from the Subraru BRZ

Q5. Release Date in US?
A5. Spring of 2012

Now, few info I got from Miwa-san.
1. This car was made to be easy changes. Example, front bumper. 3 clips on each side & 4 screws are holding the front bumper, it pretty easy to take it off &/or putting it on. That goes same w rear bumpers.
2. Inside front air vents are made big, so you can put through the roll cage bar.
3. Rear seats are there for not to function as a seat, but when to put down the rear sears, you can fit wheels, tool, & other stuff nicely/evenly.
4. It's not fastback, cuz it'll loose the chassi strength & need to add extra weight.

& lastly few things I notice about this car
1. Fenders are already rolled, top part of the wheel fenders are already rolled, so you can put wider wheels/tires without problem. Dropping the height? No problem, it won't rub (as long as you don't drop it to crazy).
2. Like Miwa-san have stated, rear seat won't be any use other than just folding it. The driver who brought the FR-S is just lil bit taller than me. After he get off the car & checked the between the front & rear seats spaces. Yeah, there's only bout 2" or less space. Don't expect to use the rear seats other than putting stuff.
3. SCION will be showing more aftermarket stuff @ Detroit Auto Show in Jan... Which, I'm interred to see what they're going to bring out.
4. Small things could of done better &/or they did better. So pretty much pro & con kinda thing
Pro - small detail things are done nicely. Example, rear bumper lower part (outer part) has small diffuser. Now that's pretty sweet. Here's the pic

Con - tow hook design. They set it up same as Impreza. Which is bottom part. Now it's common to have that design... But at the same time, they could done differently.

Pro - interior look nice. They have put some effort to make it nice. Not cheap plastic look, but actually has nice feel to it.
Con - center under diffuser wasn't done nicely. Feel lil bit cheap. Exhaust gets in the way & I understand, but felt they didn't put enough effort on that diffuser.

Now, I'll edit/add more stuff later... But I think, it's good enough info to keep the debate/discussion going til TAS & DIAS

[admiralhonshu]

Is there a link to view the video official release for this?

[KAuss]

Wow, that basically puts me out of the car for the rear seat comments...

Ichi, this info should really deserve it's own thread instead of page 31 of this one really...

[djdnz]

God the interior is terrible compared to the alcantara versions for the Toyota

[DrunkenMime]

FR-S looks better from behind than the BRZ or GT86 but I like the GT86 MUCH better from the front. The headlights and foglight area on the FR-S look very plain in comparison...this car looks super lightweight...perfect...

gimme one with no GPS, no leather, no tacked on fat. The 19" wheels are dumb...17 or 18" MAX for this car...

[bambbrose]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Release Date in US?
A5. Spring of 2013

Please say that is a typo!

[BANGER]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Q5. Release Date in US?
A5. Spring of 2013

You mean 2012 right?
Can't imagine waiting for another year considering they already have production-specs rolling around...

[ichitaka05]

Yeah sorry, I meant 2012

[MPLexus301]

Anyone else think the 86 logo is kind of pointless on the Scion? On the Toyota, I can see it because of the name of the car and the AE86 heritage...but on the Scion FR-S? Makes no sense to me.

As far as the 15 pages that came since last night/early this AM, it seems like a lot of people are unhappy about the interior, with another sizeable group saying "SO WHAT?!"

Just something to mention: The members of this forum are enthusiasts so comments like, "I want it as cheap and light as possible" are easy to understand among people looking to street race, drift and modify their cars. However, we are all entitled to our opinions but keep in mind that enthusiasts will probably in the vast minority of buyers for this car. More than half of the 370Zs, Mustangs, Camaros, Genesis Coupes, GTIs, I see are loaded-spec models driven by young to middle age women. I'm betting the FR-S will be no different.

The FR-S/BRZ/86 trio is interesting because it's a car that's been developed as a perfect tuner toy and a great driver’s car, meaning it will probably have more enthusiast appeal than your average automobile. There's a fine line between having something be a blank canvas for tuners and a decent drivers car for most of America – the ones whose wallets Scion is really after. To those of you wanting to ditch radios, ACs, and auto windows from the factory, I wouldn't count on it.

At face value, I think they have done a fine job of making the FRS into a (very) bare-bones RWD coupe that will be fun to drive. I think plenty of people will take to the car and probably buy it, be it enthusiasts or the average Joe/Jane. However, there will be a group of people, such as myself, who like the car a lot but want the premium features like LED headlights, auto climate control, nicer head unit, and heated seats. I'm ok with a few extra pounds if it will make me more comfortable, or make the car better to look at. Looking at the comments in this thread and considering the types of cars that most American’s buy, I think there is a sizable chunk of people who feel the same way. For these people, I'd personally like to see Scion release a higher spec model that has these features, not unlike how there have been different specs of tC in the past.

(Devil’s advocate: since most of the buyers won’t be enthusiasts, they probably won’t have any idea of what the GT86/86 offers that the FR-S doesn’t, so it’s not like they will be whining.)

The logical thing here is "go get the Subaru" but I don't think it's quite that easy. For 1, I hate the silver plastic going across the dash. It looks cheap as hell in all 3 cars, but the black/silver contrast in the Subaru is absolutely horrible. I also....just don't really want to buy a Subaru. For a lot of people in the U.S., Subaru is still a niche brand. Yes, they are getting bigger and more prominent, but they don't have the mass appeal of Scion/Toyota (then again, this isn't exactly a car for the masses, so take that for what it's worth).

My whole point here is that by offering a higher spec model, Scion could really broaden the appeal of the car. With a higher spec package, the FR-S could potentially appeal to a different demographic and become the poor man’s Cayman but as it is now, I think that title can be reserved for the BRZ, for those who can stomach the silver plastic dash. It seems like Toyota/Subaru might have agreed to this arrangement, but if so, I think that was a mistake on Toyota's part.