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Old 08-30-2015, 05:14 PM   #29
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Unless what you are referencing came directly from Toyota or Subaru the it means nothing.
So far the blogs and click baits have said:
It will be discontinued after the 2015, 16 and 17 model years
The 16s would be turbo with 300hp
There is a convertible and targa for the 15 and 16 mys
The 16s will be made with BMW
The 16s will be made with Mazda
Toyota is dropping it
Subaru is dropping it
The BRZ is getting AWD in 2016
The body is changing in 2016, 17 or 18


All of these articles were based on secret info from some unnamed "insider", twisted around from out of contest quotes from real press releases or interviews or based upon the showing of a concept at some event.
There are a couple of sites that seem to start the rumours and then the rest add to and embellish them and just keep quoting each other as the "authority".
There are known references to speculation in this very forum that was used as "insider" info.
There is at least one known case where a 2013 article said the 15s would be turboed but when that didn't happen they just republished the same write up and changed the date to the 16 my.
In the meantime the only official things we published are a few weeks prior to each MY release.

Speculation can be fun but when people start putting to much trust in the blogs then the level of misinformation can go through the roof.

Don't forget the V8 2017 already in production. It has 400 torque and 420 hp. AWD.
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Old 08-30-2015, 05:23 PM   #30
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Don't forget the V8 2017 already in production. It has 400 torque and 420 hp. AWD.
Well if that wasn't it the blogs before it probably is now!
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Old 08-30-2015, 05:55 PM   #31
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it'll come down to the numbers
last I hearrd Toyota had sold about 250,000 of these things which isn't too shabby but mere bagatelle for a firm the size of Toyota
Got a source for that? I remember they wanted 100k per year but the 'we passed 100k' announcement came a bit later than expected at ~1.5 years in.

Not attacking, genuinely interested in how many of these are built worldwide.
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it was from the SMMT ( society of motor manufactures & traders) website
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Old 08-30-2015, 10:28 PM   #33
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Keeping it around may convince other brands to come up with there own cheap lightweight performance car. So I hope it sticks around.
Nissan, I'm looking at you.
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Old 08-30-2015, 10:36 PM   #34
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My advice is just enjoy the damn car and don't worry about how many more models years are left.
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i've never understood the whole "ermagerdddd it has to be limited production so I can be so cool!"

No. Limited production means limited support down the road for aftermarket and finding parts will be a b!tch if you plan on keeping it a long time. I'd rather it be well developed and have a lot of options down the road instead of support for the platform slowly dying off because only 3-4 years were made.
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Old 08-31-2015, 01:06 PM   #36
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i've never understood the whole "ermagerdddd it has to be limited production so I can be so cool!"

No. Limited production means limited support down the road for aftermarket and finding parts will be a b!tch if you plan on keeping it a long time. I'd rather it be well developed and have a lot of options down the road instead of support for the platform slowly dying off because only 3-4 years were made.
Limited production = limited market supply which means us that already own the car will be able to sell it for a very decent price - if we ever sell it. It also means having a limited gem of a car. Doesn't everyone want to own something a little special?

New body style means all of our current body styles lose their value and our ROI will be significantly diminished. Plus it will make all of us want to sell our cars and get the new body style, me included. Thus flooding an unwilling market because no one wants the old body style and it will hard to get anything for our cars.. And for all the cash I have put in this one I pray a new body style doesnt come out lol. Unless its super gorgeous,.. then maybe.

But for someone with a lease I dont think any of this applies..
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Not sure if this falls under

"August 2015 rumor thread of the month"
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"September 2015 rumor thread of the month"
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They better my series blue value will double woot!

But obviously that's impossible...
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Old 08-31-2015, 02:39 PM   #39
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Not sure if this falls under

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On the bright side we are now down to one a month.
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New body style means all of our current body styles lose their value and our ROI will be significantly diminished.
The only return I get out of this car is a smile on my face. Or the smile on my face when I look at how much money I've sent on this "investment".

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Limited production = limited market supply which means us that already own the car will be able to sell it for a very decent price - if we ever sell it. It also means having a limited gem of a car. Doesn't everyone want to own something a little special?

New body style means all of our current body styles lose their value and our ROI will be significantly diminished. Plus it will make all of us want to sell our cars and get the new body style, me included. Thus flooding an unwilling market because no one wants the old body style and it will hard to get anything for our cars.. And for all the cash I have put in this one I pray a new body style doesnt come out lol. Unless its super gorgeous,.. then maybe.

But for someone with a lease I dont think any of this applies..
Dude you never hear of cars where the new style sucked big time? A new style is not always a death sentence it can sometimes drive values of the previous models through the roof. If any new one comes out as a heavy, fat, rolling cow then you can count on the old style holding or gaining value.
All that aside if you are looking for ROI on a car you are in the wrong place anyway.

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On the bright side we are now down to one a month.
That's only because we are in the 4th year of production.

I expect this run rate to spike to 1 speculation thread per 2-3 days once a facelift is announced.

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