Subaru labour conditions

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by wbradley

You sure you aren't a pinko??

I am actually shocked o hear an American say that stuff.

It reminds me of Target stores, opening in Canada, then failing miserably and closing in less that 2 years, losing several billion dollars and laying off tons of employees in the process. And so poorly mismanaged and planned that it seems like it was engineered to happen as a tax write down. The severance deal also included a 62 million dollar payout for the CEO.

Not a pinko, though I had to Google that to figure out what it was. I just feel that as we speak our current economic model isn't really in favor of the middle class.

I've witnessed a mill close to me give its CEO a 70% wage increase from last year and now the company is trying to take away the guarantee of an 8 hr day and 40 hour work week, among other things, because they aren't making enough profit. That's not right, and thats what I'm against.

[Allch Chcar]

Not to be rude but they are getting better pay and working conditions than their home country or most South-Asians factories. The first example even admitted that the guy hurt his back before he worked there. Something that would typically prevent him from being hired in the first place.

The situation where I live is no different. I can walk away or be fired for any reason at any time. But unless I want to work multiple minimum wage part time jobs, there is nothing out here even for someone with a degree. Hourly pay is competitive for the area but I can volunteer or be forced to work up to 12 hours a day 7 days a week with no days off. Yet I still make more with a high school diploma and 6 months work history than some Liberal Arts students...

[Teseo]

Originally Posted by tyrantcf

If it ends up being either one of them, Im moving to Canada lol.





But that's a different discussion.

Im considering to move there also for free insurance

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Not a pinko, though I had to Google that to figure out what it was. I just feel that as we speak our current economic model isn't really in favor of the middle class.

I've witnessed a mill close to me give its CEO a 70% wage increase from last year and now the company is trying to take away the guarantee of an 8 hr day and 40 hour work week, among other things, because they aren't making enough profit. That's not right, and thats what I'm against.

Neither is our public educational system. Educated middle class? No way. They start asking questions and get all uppity. Too messy.

[iJeff]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

Not to be rude but they are getting better pay and working conditions than their home country or most South-Asians factories. The first example even admitted that the guy hurt his back before he worked there. Something that would typically prevent him from being hired in the first place.

The situation where I live is no different. I can walk away or be fired for any reason at any time. But unless I want to work multiple minimum wage part time jobs, there is nothing out here even for someone with a degree. Hourly pay is competitive for the area but I can volunteer or be forced to work up to 12 hours a day 7 days a week with no days off. Yet I still make more with a high school diploma and 6 months work history than some Liberal Arts students...

Cost of living is significantly worse though. It only works out if they can save enough and go home.

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by Teseo

Im considering to move there also for free insurance

It ain't free when you pay 13% taxes on all goods and services, on top of income taxes that reach 30+%

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by daiheadjai

It ain't free when you pay 13% taxes on all goods and services, on top of income taxes that reach 30+%

In my income range I pay 42%. It sure as hell ain't free!

[Teseo]

Originally Posted by daiheadjai

It ain't free when you pay 13% taxes on all goods and services, on top of income taxes that reach 30+%

At least i know where is the money

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by Teseo

At least i know where is the money

It's a good system - but it also does have its flaws (as does any system).
We don't have to pay (on top of our tax dollars), but wait times are an issue partly due to the pervasiveness of government intervention.

Sadly, a lot of the money is wasted by politicians here (I guess that's something we have in common)