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[FT86_Zero]

Originally Posted by Nardi330

that's me lol

Hahaha

[davey90]

Originally Posted by Nardi330

man, how to modify the front plate holder for slimline plate.....

is slimline the Premium plates

like this?

[LeftFootBrake]

Originally Posted by Nardi330

i like the simplisity of the interior. similar in concept to cars like the JDM Type Rs, GT3 RS etc. simple, functional and focusing on the driving experience.

I can appreciate where you are coming from. (fwiw, I'll be surprised to hear you enjoy the analogue speedo with the ridiculously small spacing, for example, but only time will tell.)

I think it's a bit weird that Tadasan spent time and effort on a frameless mirror whilst simultaneously agreeing, for example, to a clock straight from the 80's and a poorly designed analogue speedo. Just seems a bit odd to me, sorry.

[Devie]

Originally Posted by LeftFootBrake

The electric seat was just one example, and not worthy of being picked on to underpin my point. Regardless, I was waiting for the "weight penalty" response. It's certainly not lost on me that it would add a weight penalty, so make everyone happy and have it as an option. It's a bit like the crowd who don't think this car should come with an option to select gears by using a flappy paddle. I think they're sadly mistaken as a result of being too narrow minded regarding the target demographics of the product.


I don't know what a "nardi DD" is, sorry. But I can assure you that they are not pointless for the majority. That's why the majority (all except the 86?) of cars at this price point have them.

If we wanted pure track day cars, we wouldn't be buying brand new cars, surely? Performance can be added relatively cheaply to second hand platforms. Instead, I pay for a brand new design that gets the balance between the various dimensions right. I'm not suggesting they haven't done a sterling job with this car. They have. And that's why I preordered one at the start of the year. But I'm also not suggesting it's anything like done yet. Particularly the interior. Having said all that, the GTS interior I have seen is a bit better than what I was actually anticipating, given the FR-S photos on this forum.

The only thing I would've prefered they kept was the steering wheel buttons. Although in my mini the ribbon connecting the buttons to the car snapped, and before it snapped steering was very, very stiff, and going around a tight slow corner in a drive thru is where it snapped. If that snapped in a faster corner, it could've ended badly.
Also in the mini, it was $700 for the replacement part, not including install.

Electric seats in a 2dr coupe is USELESS. They take too long to move around.

I sat in the GT yesterday. I didn't mind it at all. I'll be driving the GTS on saturday.

[dangerfield]

Originally Posted by davey90

is slimline the Premium plates

like this?

Yeah pretty much same size but the standard white background and black text.

I was hoping getting custom premium plates were options when getting the new car registered but apparently you can't, have to wait until after you drive away.

I'm getting that exact style though (black & red), will look epic on Tornado Grey!

[davey90]

Originally Posted by dangerfield

Yeah pretty much same size but the standard white background and black text.

I was hoping getting custom premium plates were options when getting the new car registered but apparently you can't, have to wait until after you drive away.

I'm getting that exact style though (black & red), will look epic on Tornado Grey!

Ahhh! ok, when i get my car it comes with Premium plates. so i'm not sure if they are going to put the premium plates on a standard plates holder or they have a premium plate holder. hmm...

[LeftFootBrake]

Originally Posted by Devie

Electric seats in a 2dr coupe is USELESS. They take too long to move around.

I'd argue the number of seats don't matter.

EDIT: sorry, misread your point about the number doors (doh!). I take your point on speed of moving the seat to enable rear passengers. But I expect usage of the rear seat on the driver's side happens infrequently enough to be offset by the advantages when you get it right and integrate rear-vision and side-mirrors and trigger them with the proximity keyfob, everything's done before you sit down. So on a performance comparison, electric absolutely smashes manual except when you have someone behind the driver. Not to mention reducing the effort of tuning everything to your tastes just once.

I'm also the first to agree that electric seats done badly are far worse than having manual. And most electric implementations, particularly historically, have been shocking. So if the choice was only between manual or crappy electric, they're chosen wisely. But then you have to ask why was crappy electric the only alternative?

But guys, I'm not hung up on the seats, so please stop picking just on that example.

Although in my mini...edited...

I'm pretty sure Mini are renowned as being just about the most unreliable car on the planet, so I can understand if you've been burnt by reliability and they're euro so again I can understand the cost smack. Love the car other than that aspect. But don't want to see that emotional baggage carried across to a manufacturer with a reputation for reliability.

Anyway, I never intended to write so much on the interior design or be seen to be ruthlessly bashing it. This thread is about other matters.

[Varvs]

Cousin has a 350GT with electric seats. takes you 3 minutes to get someone into the back seat.

my 180 has regular rail seats and it takes you 5 seconds.


No wheel controls was disappointing news but honestly as long as your head unit isnt touch screen and you have some tactile feedback you dont need to concentrate too hard. I can change gears and tracks at the same time pretty easily in my car (probably due to the close proximity of those two devices but my point stands)

and for those planning on fitting "omg sweet nardis" you will be breaking compliance by removing your airbag. just a heads up.

[LeftFootBrake]

Originally Posted by dangerfield

I was hoping getting custom premium plates were options when getting the new car registered but apparently you can't, have to wait until after you drive away.

I'm not sure what the situation is with "premium plates" in NSW at the moment but every brand new car I've bought previously had slimline black and white plates when it drove off the lot. So I'm confused by this comment.

[Nardi330]

Originally Posted by LeftFootBrake

I can appreciate where you are coming from. (fwiw, I'll be surprised to hear you enjoy the analogue speedo with the ridiculously small spacing, for example, but only time will tell.)

I think it's a bit weird that Tadasan spent time and effort on a frameless mirror whilst simultaneously agreeing, for example, to a clock straight from the 80's and a poorly designed analogue speedo. Just seems a bit odd to me, sorry.

re. the speedo, i agree and that's why i got the GTS and all BRZ have the digital speedo regardless of grade.

re. the clock, it guess cost needs to be cut somewhere and i don't really mind with such trival item.

[Varvs]

the clock is fine. what do you want, some kind of whale bone-faced analog time piece with swiss movement?

[dangerfield]

Originally Posted by LeftFootBrake

I'm not sure what the situation is with "premium plates" in NSW at the moment but every brand new car I've bought previously had slimline black and white plates when it drove off the lot. So I'm confused by this comment.

The keyword was "custom" haha. Don't have a choice in colours or content.. Oh well.

[jonnyboy]

Originally Posted by davey90

Ahhh! ok, when i get my car it comes with Premium plates. so i'm not sure if they are going to put the premium plates on a standard plates holder or they have a premium plate holder. hmm...

Based on the demo car from TMCA that I saw, it was premium plates on the standard plate holder (ie, the extra bit of the plate holder extends below).

Not very elegant, but maybe for customer cars it might be different?

[Nafe]

Dude, this is NOT a luxury car. it purpose built to be focused on driving, not luxuries and comfort. Some reviews have already said it is almost too firm for comfort... it's for sports driving.If you want luxury features, get a luxury car.
As far as I am concerned, steering controls are annoying, navi is annoying, electric seat adjsuter is unnecessary.
I want a sports car that drives well. not a luxury car that is comfortable

And back on topic..... Ihaven't driven yet, but sat in a black GTS last ngiht. I would hardly say the interior is barely acceptable. It was very ncie, and more flashy thatn I like

EDIT - I don't think the analogue speedo is poorly designed at all. And no, I woudln't prefer the digital. Analogue is 100% fine