Has anyone used this BBK (Racingbrake)

[that_guy]

Originally Posted by Model Citizen

example: cosworth

Cosworth is a good example, but I think the problem a lot of us have with their stuff now is that in many cases, they are literally using their name on other brand parts and trying to leverage the value behind their pedigree. That works in some cases but educated consumers can usually see past the smoke and mirrors. Look back years ago though and if you had Cosworth parts, it was like having a Lancia Thema 8.32. No one would believe that your crap can had top end parts in it, and after showing them, you'd have a whole new level of respect - you'd be legendary.

Back to these brakes though, I've looked into them myself before and they seem great on the surface. The bad history sours the interest a little but more so because there seem to be more people with bad things to say than there are people with good. I mean, how many of us have installed the simplest of things and felt the need to stand at the top of a building and shout our joy and excitement for said part? Now consider something like a big brake kit, something that you can not only see, but feel as well. When the Wilwood, Brembo, Stoptech, AP Racing, etc, kits came out, there were multi-page threads on them with great reviews, both good and bad, from users all over the world. These brakes have been out just as long and while there are people here with them, no one seems to care enough to tell anyone about the experience. Doesn't anyone else find that a little odd?

I for one will spend a little extra to get something I trust, especially in the case of brakes. With a strut bar, I might experiment, but not with something that could make or break my driving experience.

Just my 2 cents.

[DAEMANO]

@that_guy

Understandable position. It's up to each mfg to find what will make their customers into raving fans. I hold interest in RB because often times new products have a really difficult time getting a foothold in the market for the same reasons you noted. Not many reviews, so a handful of negative ones can tank a business. Think of a small restaurant finding its footing, but with only 3 negative Yelp reviews. What an uphill climb for a small biz owner that can be. Those negative reviews can prove helpful to the business by providing feedback while hindering their marketing efforts for its newly improved business or products. This makes bringing new or custom products to market an uphill climb, even if the business is willing to give it away for next to nothing just to seed and get more feedback.

For this reason I tend to support companies trying to widen or even disrupt the market (OpenFlashTablet is a good example). And yes sometimes I've been burned, but that also happens with large reputable companies. Other times I've end up with a great value, cutting edge tech or something new.

Case in point. The RS*R Sports-i Coilovers on my FR-S. A year ago there was only product info from their brand ambassador (Moto-P / Miwa from Club4AG) and 1 or 2 reviews for the '86. No major garages in SoCal were selling them, and to make matters worse, the only feedback I could find on RS*R as a whole was from Honda guys with mixed feelings about previous RS*R products (not these exact coils). Very few mentions when discussion of coils came up. That certainly was a factor in my decision but thankfully it wasn't THE factor. I took a chance based on expertise from writers and the tone that information was delivered. Measured, even delivery tends to reflect a measured and even eye on the information. In the end the coils have been fantastic. I love the quality, ride, and handling improvement. Funny thing is, just recently has the board and more garages come around to RS*R coilovers on this platform. The results and new products developed from previous experience on the platform has been very positive.

Same goes for the Phantom Electric Supercharger. If you look in that thread there were MANY more naysayers from what they thought was previous experience with ESCs (those once again, were not the same type of device from another era) and other F.I. as a whole. Still, that wasn't previous experience with this exact product for this platform. I received my ESC kit in the first public batch (#11 IIRC), and can't say enough about it. Neither can anyone that has either drove or rode in my car. For the price nothing touches it, and additional R&D has added more features in the first year than even I thought possible. New businesses have to fight through the adversity, but don't just listen to the mob. Phantom ESC development continues, there are now roughly 30 kits in the wild, and a waiting list about 50 people deep. Additionally, nearly every major auto mfg has an electric super or turbo planned for the near future.

I've purchased a handful of other first run products with different degrees of success and failure. I'll continue to do so. I understand the risks (catastrophic failure being one of them). Taking part in new tech is interesting to me. Still on message boards negative voices tend to be the loudest. I'm not espousing anyone buy this product. I have zero vested interest. A bad product(s) does not make a bad company or all products shoddy. Apple, Sony, BMW, Microsoft, and many more needed to fail to only later succeed.

[DAEMANO]

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Private Message: Re: Racing Brake BBK
Originally Posted by DAEMANO
Hi,

I was wondering if you could share your experience with the RacingBrake BBK running on your shop car. Anything from build quality to performance to any issues you might have come across. I've been active in this thread

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77085

and would love any feedback as to your experiences.

Thanks,
DAEMANO

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Originally Posted by FRSport.com

Hello DAEMANO,

We had some very good experiences with the RacingBrake BBK. Currently we are working on the STI Brembo conversion. We have decided to change though purely for greater knowledge of the application. If you have any other questions feel free to let me know.

-Garren

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Originally Posted by DAEMANO
Thanks Garren,

Can you tell me if you experienced any premature wear, cracking, or warping on any of the RB BBK components. Also according to @mav1178 the car was run in SCCA events. How many events and for how many laps. I'm trying to get an idea about durability/reliability.

Thanks again,
DAEMANO

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Originally Posted by FRSport.com
We used them all year for our regional event including nationals. We have completed the year with no real issues. We are currently testing the Sti brakes which we hope to be kitting very soon for the public. We are testing this weekend at Fontana Motor Speedway.

-Garren


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Originally Posted by DAEMANO
Thanks Garren,

Good to hear that you had a positive experience. Do you mind if I share that on the board? Also, the STi Brembo conversion kit, do you have any details about that? Obviousy you can see I am in the market for a BBK.

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Originally Posted by FRSport.com

Hello DAEMANO,

Feel free to share. Also as for the STI conversion, we are still testing at the moment but we will be finished soon. I will try and get some updates posted to the boards once we are done.

Thanks

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