How different is the brz from the frs? - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Poodles · 10-02-2014, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ntron1

I understand why you would say that but I have significant experience with the long term reliability of the control module this HVAC system uses and I am not impressed even though I would never have to pay to have it fixed.

Regarding swapping the systems, you are correct about putting the automatic one in place of the manual but going the other way is simple.

I'm curious about your first comment, how do you have experience with the control module? I have a Supra that's 25 years old that the climate control still works perfectly on...

I fail to see how going the other way would be any easier as the dealer wouldn't modify anything and would only do the swap with OEM components requiring the same amount of work. If the wiring was hacked, sure, you could do it faster I'm sure...

ntron1 · 10-03-2014, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Poodles

I'm curious about your first comment, how do you have experience with the control module? I have a Supra that's 25 years old that the climate control still works perfectly on...

I fail to see how going the other way would be any easier as the dealer wouldn't modify anything and would only do the swap with OEM components requiring the same amount of work. If the wiring was hacked, sure, you could do it faster I'm sure...

I am a member of the SAE Interior Climate Control Service Committee and we make the rules for servicing AC systems. In 2012, I had a half dozen of these control modules sitting dead on my window sill for failure analysis. I also wrote parts of the Subaru HVAC servicing procedures on this system so I am well versed in what is required to swap systems.

http://profiles.sae.org/79488641537/

AznBRZer · 10-03-2014, 07:59 AM

All the cool kids own BRZ's and FR-S owners are perpetually butthurt about not being as cool to the point of having an inferiority complex.

projekkt · 10-03-2014, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jbsali

I would highly recommend getting insurance quotes on both models. i found out that the FRS and BRZ are almost a $500 difference annually in BC, Canada. The FRS is more common here, hence more accidents; higher insurance cost. I was able to slip into a BRZ premium for under the insurance cost of a base model FRS (saved around $450 annually).

Granted insurance companies have different rates, it's still worth checking out. BC insurance is ran by the government so we only deal with one insurance company where im from.

I originally wanted to get the FRS because of the history of toyota and the cars the FRS is based on. i ended up getting more car at the same price as a monogram frs and cheaper on insurance. it was a no-brainer for me to get the BRZ. plus, having a World Rally Blue BRZ sure does turn heads.

I don't think that's how statistics works. Insurance is based on probability which is dependent on number. more cars is always more accidents. the average frs driver is probably more likely to get into an accident than a brz.

abraxis · 10-03-2014, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AznBRZer

All the cool kids own BRZ's and FR-S owners are perpetually butthurt about not being as cool to the point of having an inferiority complex.

Actually the cool kids are the FRS owners that already own real Subarus with turbos and AWD.

silver skate · 10-03-2014, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sofargone561

I am going to be purchasing an frs/brz in the near future. I am probably going to go with and frs to save some cash. The only reason I am interested in the brz is becuase of the brz limited hvac control unit. I think the frs and base brz units are cheap looking but i really like the look of the brz's unit.

I know there are a few cosmetic things that are different. My real question I guess would be am i going to be limited more with the brz then the frs? I know most of the car is the same but it seems most of the aftermarket support right now is geared towards the frs more then the brz.

Also another question does the rocket bunny v2 kit fit on a brz?

Sounds like you should base your decision on the aftermarket parts you want to add.

NOHOME · 10-06-2014, 06:11 PM

Way back when I was looking to buy mine, I visited both dealers. (This would be before they were released)

The main differences were:

Subaru salesguy was a ****head
Subaru wanted almost 5k more than Scion to put it in the driveway. They were over-list(only knew this by going back after cars started to arrive) and the deposit would not be refundable based on a test drive.
No delivery date could be given.

So, based on that, the Scion badge is something that I have learned to live with.

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NOHOME Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: RAVEN Location: LONDON ONTARIO Posts: 795 Thanks: 86 Thanked 800 Times in 346 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Way back when I was looking to buy mine, I visited both dealers. (This would be before they were released) The main differences were: Subaru salesguy was a ****head Subaru wanted almost 5k more than Scion to put it in the driveway. They were over-list(only knew this by going back after cars started to arrive) and the deposit would not be refundable based on a test drive. No delivery date could be given. So, based on that, the Scion badge is something that I have learned to live with.

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