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bobafreak · 08-10-2014, 07:52 PM

^^ best advice i have heard that is very true. Do your homework. Call multiple dealers even if far out and haggle!
Do any of them offer military discount? ive always wondered....

Celadrielas · 08-10-2014, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bobafreak

^^ best advice i have heard that is very true. Do you homework. Call multiple dealers even if far out and haggle!
Do any of them offer military discount? ive always wondered....

I don't know about California, but I imagine with all the bases there they would. Here in Arizona, they offered one but I would have had to be currently enlisted. My brother is serving because I can't (Medical defect in heart) so I didn't qualify.

FirestormFRS · 08-10-2014, 08:12 PM

I know where there is a brand new 10 series for <$25k but it's a manual

http://www.fanninscion.com/new/Scion...21bcd6cf25.htm

Kinda throws the whole "must show msrp on sale sheet" out the window don't it.

Lord Peth · 08-10-2014, 08:41 PM

I got a "Military Discount" buy using USAAs car buying service to get a quote. They give you the price on model and trim level and you take it to a participating dealer and its good for the model and trim in the lot. Used that price as leverage against the closer, non participating dealer. They ended up trading an STi to get CBS for me after I put my deposit down. I also forced them to trailer it. Overall its just about making the dealer work for you. Also an old adage I've heard which has been true for me so far is that, if you feel like you're getting a great deal, you probably got screwed. If you feel like maybe you got screwed a little bit, you got a great deal.

N1rve · 08-10-2014, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FirestormFRS

I know where there is a brand new 10 series for <$25k but it's a manual

http://www.fanninscion.com/new/Scion...21bcd6cf25.htm

Kinda throws the whole "must show msrp on sale sheet" out the window don't it.

I'm guessing all the 2013 10 series are the same price on this dealer's lot.

FirestormFRS · 08-10-2014, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by N1rve

I'm guessing all the 2013 10 series are the same price on this dealer's lot.

No doubt. Sign of how well they sale around here. We have some of the best roads in the world. Winters can be a pain, but everyone has 4x4 of some sort for that. Just not a very interesting car to the general public. Very small niche and that dried up fast.

strat61caster · 08-10-2014, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bobafreak

^^ best advice i have heard that is very true. Do your homework. Call multiple dealers even if far out and haggle!
Do any of them offer military discount? ive always wondered....

Every Scion dealership offers a military rebate:

http://www.scion.com/promotions/militaryrebate/

Also recent college grad:
http://www.scion.com/promotions/collegerebate/

Edit: they fluctuate between $500 and $1000 depending on the season and how many cars Scion has moved.

Hot Lava · 08-10-2014, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Veejayy

Guess i hit a nerve with all these rapid replies-but thanks.

Let me correct - the engine is fine and not a deal breaker. Base Cayman owners bitch about power all the time but still love their cars.

The steering really got me. How did they reproduce that hydraulic feel? I drove a Lotus Exige around Lime Rock for half a day and the 86 is almost as good!!

Don't know why Other manufacturers can't replicate.

Excellent question and one not worth pondering when your behind the wheel of an FR-S since... well it's best. Welcome to the fun. Hope you enjoy the car as much as I've enjoyed mine.

FRS Dad · 08-11-2014, 01:38 AM

I love running into a "no haggle" dealer when I have a trade (which is always). This was an actual recent conversation between myself and the sales manager of a "no haggle" Audi store.

Him: "The good news is we're a no haggle dealer. The lowest price is right on the window. It really saves the customer a lot of stress because you know you're getting the best price."

Me: "That sounds perfectly fair, and the good news for you is that I have a no haggle price for my trade in as well. This way we both know we're getting the best price."

Him: "Uh..."

Me: "You're welcome!"

InspGadgt · 08-11-2014, 01:41 AM

I wouldn't expect them to go below MSRP...Personally I like the no haggle policy as long as they keep their cars reasonably priced. So far they have.

Ec1990 · 08-11-2014, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

Every Scion dealership offers a military rebate:

http://www.scion.com/promotions/militaryrebate/

Also recent college grad:
http://www.scion.com/promotions/collegerebate/

Edit: they fluctuate between $500 and $1000 depending on the season and how many cars Scion has moved.

Only when financed through Scion. Horrible requirement...

njccmd2002 · 08-11-2014, 04:25 AM

traded mine for a subaru STI, never looked back...

djmm · 08-11-2014, 06:25 AM

Is the steering feel really that good? I only drove crap cars before 86 so I don't know how a good steering feedback should feel like.

I know at other forum, there was this one guy who completely bashed 86's steering and mentioned that it felt so numb and boring. He was coming from the old BMW with hydraulic steering. I remember he was saying that it felt like driving using video game wheels.

Is hydraulic steering really that fun? Because I got no problem whatsoever with the 86 steering, but maybe I'm missing something?

08-10-2014, 07:52 PM	#29
bobafreak Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: 04 silver bubble Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^^ best advice i have heard that is very true. Do your homework. Call multiple dealers even if far out and haggle! Do any of them offer military discount? ive always wondered.... Last edited by bobafreak; 08-10-2014 at 08:15 PM.

08-10-2014, 08:12 PM	#31
FirestormFRS Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Anytown Posts: 920 Thanks: 73 Thanked 643 Times in 302 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I know where there is a brand new 10 series for <$25k but it's a manual http://www.fanninscion.com/new/Scion...21bcd6cf25.htm Kinda throws the whole "must show msrp on sale sheet" out the window don't it. Last edited by FirestormFRS; 08-10-2014 at 08:15 PM. Reason: Pure price my ass

08-11-2014, 01:38 AM	#37
FRS Dad Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: 2015 FRS Location: Gainesville Posts: 83 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I love running into a "no haggle" dealer when I have a trade (which is always). This was an actual recent conversation between myself and the sales manager of a "no haggle" Audi store. Him: "The good news is we're a no haggle dealer. The lowest price is right on the window. It really saves the customer a lot of stress because you know you're getting the best price." Me: "That sounds perfectly fair, and the good news for you is that I have a no haggle price for my trade in as well. This way we both know we're getting the best price." Him: "Uh..." Me: "You're welcome!" __________________ 2015 FRS M6 Argento, 2014 Audi Q7, 2012 Audi A5 (Traded),2012 VW CC, 2010 Mercedes S550

08-11-2014, 04:25 AM	#40
njccmd2002 Toyota Freak Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Whiteout FRS Location: Jackson, TN Posts: 364 Thanks: 47 Thanked 150 Times in 92 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	traded mine for a subaru STI, never looked back... __________________

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08-10-2014, 08:41 PM	#32
Lord Peth Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2014 BRZ Location: TN Posts: 63 Thanks: 11 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I got a "Military Discount" buy using USAAs car buying service to get a quote. They give you the price on model and trim level and you take it to a participating dealer and its good for the model and trim in the lot. Used that price as leverage against the closer, non participating dealer. They ended up trading an STi to get CBS for me after I put my deposit down. I also forced them to trailer it. Overall its just about making the dealer work for you. Also an old adage I've heard which has been true for me so far is that, if you feel like you're getting a great deal, you probably got screwed. If you feel like maybe you got screwed a little bit, you got a great deal.

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djmm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: toyota Location: Australia Posts: 358 Thanks: 25 Thanked 163 Times in 81 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is the steering feel really that good? I only drove crap cars before 86 so I don't know how a good steering feedback should feel like. I know at other forum, there was this one guy who completely bashed 86's steering and mentioned that it felt so numb and boring. He was coming from the old BMW with hydraulic steering. I remember he was saying that it felt like driving using video game wheels. Is hydraulic steering really that fun? Because I got no problem whatsoever with the 86 steering, but maybe I'm missing something?

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