ST Coilovers *Review from the Beginning* - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Ny Brz · 08-05-2013, 09:49 PM

I had to pass through the Bronx area to drop some people off and i did watch out for the crappy roads but when i couldn't avoid them it was not bad at all.

mike the snake · 08-06-2013, 12:27 AM

Here's a couple bad pics of my car. I left the front where it is, but had to raise the rear an inch up from where it was in this pic. Initially the rear was probably 2" lower but now it's at 1'' or 1.5" drop.

I stuffed 265/35 Michelin PSS tires on 18x9.5 wheels with +45 offset which made for a perfect flush fit but the rear tires rubbed on the fender tab with 2.35 degrees camber.

I'm going to trim the tabs, and add a little more camber and drop the rear back down when I get a chance.

thatWESguy · 08-06-2013, 03:27 PM

Great Review, leaning towards ST coils now. It's comforting knowing they're manufactured by KW

frslee · 08-07-2013, 09:53 AM

They're really not bad for the price, it's basically same as KW V1 using regular steel body coated with anti-corrosion spray.

mwjcyber · 08-07-2013, 11:15 AM

Only problem with the ST coilovers, that has me going with something else, is they don't have ride height adjustment independent from spring pre-load. So for those looking to go low, you'll be riding the bump-stops on these. Otherwise great coilovers for the money.

For the price of the ST's with top camber plates, I'll be doing Fortune Auto 500's instead. They're digressive, hand built in USA from high quality components, separate ride height adjustment, have a great ride, and come with 5 yr warranty.

Ny Brz · 08-07-2013, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mwjcyber

Only problem with the ST coilovers, that has me going with something else, is they don't have ride height adjustment independent from spring pre-load. So for those looking to go low, you'll be riding the bump-stops on these. Otherwise great coilovers for the money.

For the price of the ST's with top camber plates, I'll be doing Fortune Auto 500's instead. They're digressive, hand built in USA from high quality components, separate ride height adjustment, have a great ride, and come with 5 yr warranty.

You are correct if you are looking to add camber plates might as well go with the next level up (ex: Fortune 500, Tein Flex etc...). If you are looking for something basic i would either recommend these or the Tein Basis.

Racecomp Engineering · 08-07-2013, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwjcyber

Only problem with the ST coilovers, that has me going with something else, is they don't have ride height adjustment independent from spring pre-load. So for those looking to go low, you'll be riding the bump-stops on these. Otherwise great coilovers for the money.

I say this a lot, but this is only an advantage if you are going really really low. KWs/RCEs/STs already have a shortened shock body, so you have a lot of bump travel when you go low, plus plenty of droop travel.

Slammed...maybe the separate ride height and preload is more of an advantage.

- Andy

86socal · 08-09-2013, 09:11 PM

i plan on getting these as well and i was just wondering if you had to get camber kits for proper alignment?

Ny Brz · 08-09-2013, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 86socal

i plan on getting these as well and i was just wondering if you had to get camber kits for proper alignment?

I ended getting the crash\camber bolts for the front for more camber. I had the alignment done today and it steering feels a bit tighter and no front rubbing issues.

86socal · 08-10-2013, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ny Brz

I ended getting the crash\camber bolts for the front for more camber. I had the alignment done today and it steering feels a bit tighter and no front rubbing issues.

thanks alot so you got to align the rears without any other modification?

Ny Brz · 08-10-2013, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 86socal

thanks alot so you got to align the rears without any other modification?

Yup rears are stock, if I ever decide to fully road race the car then my setup will totally change. For the time being I will enjoy driving the car to work and around and about.

styl3z · 08-11-2013, 08:06 PM

Is that the lowest you can go? Looks good! Thinking about getting the same coilovers.

mike the snake · 08-11-2013, 10:28 PM

I just dropped my car 1.5" or maybe a little more on ST coilovers and the front had no issues with alignment but the rears cambered out to -2.35 degrees and I was told I needed the camber bolts to go back to less camber in the rear.

console_cowboy · 08-11-2013, 10:37 PM

You can't use camber bolts in the rear, although some people have tried. I would not recommend the camber bolt in the rear method. The two best ways to adjust rear camber are the whiteline camber adjustment bushings or any of the various control arms. Personally, I like the SPC control arms due to their cost, factory look, and ease of adjustment. They won't adjust as far, only +-2 deg, but I like how the adjustment point is towards the outside edge of the arm.

08-05-2013, 09:49 PM	#29
Ny Brz Hella Flush Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Location: Yonkers, NY Posts: 1,090 Thanks: 170 Thanked 332 Times in 251 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I had to pass through the Bronx area to drop some people off and i did watch out for the crappy roads but when i couldn't avoid them it was not bad at all. __________________ Ny BRZ's Build

08-06-2013, 12:27 AM	#30
mike the snake Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: Norcal Posts: 1,592 Thanks: 1 Thanked 623 Times in 378 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Here's a couple bad pics of my car. I left the front where it is, but had to raise the rear an inch up from where it was in this pic. Initially the rear was probably 2" lower but now it's at 1'' or 1.5" drop. I stuffed 265/35 Michelin PSS tires on 18x9.5 wheels with +45 offset which made for a perfect flush fit but the rear tires rubbed on the fender tab with 2.35 degrees camber. I'm going to trim the tabs, and add a little more camber and drop the rear back down when I get a chance. Attached Images

08-06-2013, 03:27 PM	#31
thatWESguy Power Ranger Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 86 Location: SoCal Posts: 204 Thanks: 105 Thanked 66 Times in 39 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Great Review, leaning towards ST coils now. It's comforting knowing they're manufactured by KW __________________ Autofashion \| FIVEaxis \| Enkei

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86socal Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: White frs Location: san diego Posts: 175 Thanks: 20 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i plan on getting these as well and i was just wondering if you had to get camber kits for proper alignment?

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mike the snake Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: Norcal Posts: 1,592 Thanks: 1 Thanked 623 Times in 378 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just dropped my car 1.5" or maybe a little more on ST coilovers and the front had no issues with alignment but the rears cambered out to -2.35 degrees and I was told I needed the camber bolts to go back to less camber in the rear.

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console_cowboy Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Black BRZ Limited Location: Mississippi Posts: 81 Thanks: 42 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You can't use camber bolts in the rear, although some people have tried. I would not recommend the camber bolt in the rear method. The two best ways to adjust rear camber are the whiteline camber adjustment bushings or any of the various control arms. Personally, I like the SPC control arms due to their cost, factory look, and ease of adjustment. They won't adjust as far, only +-2 deg, but I like how the adjustment point is towards the outside edge of the arm.

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