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415FRS · 06-02-2013, 07:26 PM

So if my warranty is voided since I'm going to have my SC installed. Do they still fix my car if it is a recall ?

Marrk · 06-02-2013, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Carwhisperer

June 1st.. A year ago. 99.9% sure I fall under, " badly needs a software update" to prevent this injector shenanigan business from happening a 3rd time.

What's the relationship between software updates and injector seal failure?

Frozen_skidmark · 06-02-2013, 08:21 PM

Toyota seems to be a little better with the after sales and the warranty stuff. I was a little torn between the frs and brz... but I think it's going to be frs for sure. I wouldn't be surprised to see some asbestos seals come out for this even if they're after market. Can't use it in brake pads and such, but this would be a perfectly viable application.

lsxiong · 06-03-2013, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by romin

I have the same issue.
Went to Subaru dealership #2 today with the O rings in hand and they refused to acknowledge the issue.

Today's service advisor tried to blame the issue on my after market exhaust.
Really getting tired of these guys.
They have pictures of their rally cars hanging everywhere and pump their products at SEMA but the minute you purchase any of this stuff they blame every engine issue on your after market parts.

You put the exhaust on, so you should take it upon yourself to swapped the stock one back before getting your car serviced. I'm getting the TRD exhaust.

track_warrior · 06-03-2013, 01:33 AM

Could some one please add a poll to this thread?

1- My car has had an injector seal leak but no damage was done. Dealer Validated Warranty.

2- My car has had an injector seal leak but no damage was done. Dealer Denied Warranty.

3- My car has had an injector seal leak that caused engine damage. Dealer Denied Warranty.

4- My car has had an injector seal leak that caused engine damage. Dealer Validated Warranty.

Carwhisperer · 06-03-2013, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by track_warrior

Could some one please add a poll to this thread?

1- My car has had an injector seal leak but no damage was done. Dealer Validated Warranty.

2- My car has had an injector seal leak but no damage was done. Dealer Denied Warranty.

3- My car has had an injector seal leak that caused engine damage. Dealer Denied Warranty.

4- My car has had an injector seal leak that caused engine damage. Dealer Validated Warranty.

Just start a new one with a poll man. It'll get more attention.

Carwhisperer · 06-03-2013, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marrk

What's the relationship between software updates and injector seal failure?

For those who haven't seen this.

Marrk · 06-03-2013, 11:38 AM

@Carwhisperer:

1) Thanks for Post #39.

2) Combustion/misfires above 5200 rpm caused the nylon collars to fail? Have I understood that correctly?

zc06_kisstherain · 06-03-2013, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Carwhisperer

For those who haven't seen this.

It's little funny on "note" in last pic.
it occured during track usage and unique aggressive driving style. lol
is there TSB for BRZ?

whtchocla7e · 06-03-2013, 12:14 PM

Any news on this TSB coming to North America?

andrew20195 · 06-03-2013, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marrk

2) Combustion/misfires above 5200 rpm caused the nylon collars to fail? Have I understood that correctly?

Not misfires, detonation. Also called spark knock, sounds like pinging from the engine. Most modern cars will have some light detonation from time to time, and it's considered normal. Any time you have detonation the cylinder pressures are higher than during normal combustion. Apparently this is blowing out the nylon seal.

wootwoot · 06-03-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by whtchocla7e

Any news on this TSB coming to North America?

Not yet. I have emailed scion, Toyota, and the NHTSA. If you do the same, and demand we get the fix ASAP, it will happen much faster. Send an email or get on the phone today.

CSG Mike · 06-03-2013, 12:35 PM

That "on-off-on" cause is in direct opposition with my driving habits. I shift slowly to preserve the synchros in the tranny, as well as the engine mounts; the RPMs on this car drop rather slowly as a byproduct of tuning for emissions purposes and a heavi-ish flywheel.

I do, however, do a "on-off-on" to induce rotation mid-turn, without shifting. In other words, I'll lift on the throttle and get back on it to upset the car's balance.

welllam · 06-03-2013, 12:42 PM

Has anyone successfully captured the knocking sound?

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415FRS Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: Red SCion FRS Location: San Francisco Posts: 136 Thanks: 33 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So if my warranty is voided since I'm going to have my SC installed. Do they still fix my car if it is a recall ?

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Marrk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: Honda Fit Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 722 Thanked 125 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	@Carwhisperer: 1) Thanks for Post #39. 2) Combustion/misfires above 5200 rpm caused the nylon collars to fail? Have I understood that correctly?

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CSG Mike Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: S2000 CR Location: Orange County Posts: 14,561 Thanks: 8,941 Thanked 14,211 Times in 6,854 Posts Mentioned: 970 Post(s) Tagged: 14 Thread(s)	That "on-off-on" cause is in direct opposition with my driving habits. I shift slowly to preserve the synchros in the tranny, as well as the engine mounts; the RPMs on this car drop rather slowly as a byproduct of tuning for emissions purposes and a heavi-ish flywheel. I do, however, do a "on-off-on" to induce rotation mid-turn, without shifting. In other words, I'll lift on the throttle and get back on it to upset the car's balance.

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