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DaJo · 08-29-2012, 02:14 PM

I normally wait at least 3-5 mins (depends if I'm late) from cold start before driving up to operational temperature. I also don't race the engine over 2.5K RPM... After about 10 minutes of light-foot driving, I usually rev up to about 3K-4K range.

My guess is that maybe the oil isn't thin enough to enter the oil passages to properly lubricate the cams when not in the temperature range. It could be a slight design flaw on Subaru's part.

I don't know if this helps or if it's the reason, but just throwing my 2 cents out there.

Sigh-on-Rice · 08-29-2012, 02:45 PM

7032xx.
24xx miles. Mostly city driving.
No CEL. No idle dip.
Idles at 650 RPM. Even the moment A/C turns on, it only drops to 620 RPM.

I also noticed that CEL is happening only in U.S. and Canada. Not in other countries. I wonder if it has something to do with the type of fuel we have here.

whataboutbob · 08-29-2012, 02:54 PM

VIN# ...243, nearly 8K miles, no issues.

jduffy · 08-30-2012, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice

I also noticed that CEL is happening only in U.S. and Canada. Not in other countries. I wonder if it has something to do with the type of fuel we have here.

Intriguing, I was wondering the same thing about our gas.

So far I have not had any of the issues but I'm readying myself in case they do crop up.

Still driving the car and loving it.

apexaddict · 08-31-2012, 11:29 AM

All is well here so far.

FR-S
VIN# 2015
58xx miles
Lots of highway driving and a few autocrosses

I've noticed the idle dip but it's never been so bad as to make the car want to stall - 550-600rpm minimum.

I do have some occasionally wet taillights, though, but those should be replaced when I go in for 7500mi service.

Lytheum · 08-31-2012, 02:33 PM

brz
vin 600550
42xx miles

only seems to happen with a/c running, clutch in and come to a stop. the idle will drop to ~500 car will shudder and rpm jumps. have noticed led running lights turn off while this happens(reflections on car in front of me). no cel's yet and it has been doing this pretty much the whole time i had the car. took it to the dealer and they couldnt duplicate it.

dori. · 09-01-2012, 12:52 AM

brz
602465
just it 1k mi today.
No mechanical problems whatsoever.

The navigation unit on the other hand...

aznsensazian · 09-01-2012, 02:40 AM

FR-S
VIN 0283
8900 miles
No issues here and I drive it hard everyday. I haven't had a studder once. The only thing that bothers me is the chirping, but i hear that that is normal for this car.

jduffy · 09-01-2012, 04:40 PM

1,500 miles and no chirps or idle issues. Still early yet though, just enjoying the car every day.

BRZranger · 12-08-2012, 03:14 AM

5300 miles, still solid.

DaJo · 12-08-2012, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brzranger

5300 miles, still solid.

You just taunted "Them"...

The FT86 gods are watching!...

gmookher · 12-08-2012, 08:46 AM

Lets see how she does with forced induction...few more weeks hoefully

Lonewolf · 12-08-2012, 02:08 PM

Any updates from the first few posters to this thread?

carbonBLUE · 12-08-2012, 02:36 PM

18k miles vin #100X idle does drop when i slow to a stop, some chirping but i consider it normal

no CEL's woo!

08-29-2012, 02:14 PM	#29
DaJo FT86Club Vancouver Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: BRZ Sport-Tech; Drove: MR-S, AE86 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,533 Thanks: 391 Thanked 1,180 Times in 634 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I normally wait at least 3-5 mins (depends if I'm late) from cold start before driving up to operational temperature. I also don't race the engine over 2.5K RPM... After about 10 minutes of light-foot driving, I usually rev up to about 3K-4K range. My guess is that maybe the oil isn't thin enough to enter the oil passages to properly lubricate the cams when not in the temperature range. It could be a slight design flaw on Subaru's part. I don't know if this helps or if it's the reason, but just throwing my 2 cents out there. __________________ 1984 AE86 BT 20V 5MT 2007-2012 2000 MR-S 5MT 2010-2012 2013 BRZ Sport-Tech 6AT Since '12 (OEM+ STI tS Build) 2015 Lexus IS250 AWD F-Sport 2 2015-2018 2018 Lexus NX300 F-Sport 3 Since '18

08-31-2012, 11:29 AM	#33
apexaddict Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Kent, OH Posts: 97 Thanks: 17 Thanked 41 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	All is well here so far. FR-S VIN# 2015 58xx miles Lots of highway driving and a few autocrosses I've noticed the idle dip but it's never been so bad as to make the car want to stall - 550-600rpm minimum. I do have some occasionally wet taillights, though, but those should be replaced when I go in for 7500mi service. __________________ Andrew P. #14 STX Scion FR-S - powered by Stranoparts and Moto-East

08-31-2012, 02:33 PM	#34
Lytheum Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ Premium 6MT Location: Ohio Posts: 427 Thanks: 49 Thanked 103 Times in 54 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	brz vin 600550 42xx miles only seems to happen with a/c running, clutch in and come to a stop. the idle will drop to ~500 car will shudder and rpm jumps. have noticed led running lights turn off while this happens(reflections on car in front of me). no cel's yet and it has been doing this pretty much the whole time i had the car. took it to the dealer and they couldnt duplicate it. __________________ 2013 Subaru BRZ Premium 6MT -STOCK!

09-01-2012, 12:52 AM	#35
dori. Señor Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: white BRZ 6MT Location: Rockland, NY Posts: 1,554 Thanks: 740 Thanked 374 Times in 248 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	brz 602465 just it 1k mi today. No mechanical problems whatsoever. The navigation unit on the other hand... __________________ twitter \| instagram \| #nicetwins tumblr photoblog

12-08-2012, 02:36 PM	#42
carbonBLUE Reverse Burnouts Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 2013 Argento FRS Location: dallas!!! Posts: 2,894 Thanks: 707 Thanked 1,257 Times in 592 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	18k miles vin #100X idle does drop when i slow to a stop, some chirping but i consider it normal no CEL's woo! __________________ 2000 Carbon Blue Toyota Celica GTS 152000 miles (wont forget you) 2013 Argento Scion FR-S 2011 Infiniti G37x

09-01-2012, 02:40 AM	#36
aznsensazian Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 1991 Nissan 240sx Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 106 Thanks: 3 Thanked 56 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FR-S VIN 0283 8900 miles No issues here and I drive it hard everyday. I haven't had a studder once. The only thing that bothers me is the chirping, but i hear that that is normal for this car.

09-01-2012, 04:40 PM	#37
jduffy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: SoCal Posts: 157 Thanks: 29 Thanked 71 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	1,500 miles and no chirps or idle issues. Still early yet though, just enjoying the car every day.

12-08-2012, 03:14 AM	#38
BRZranger Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: Everett, WA Posts: 736 Thanks: 996 Thanked 268 Times in 180 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	5300 miles, still solid.

12-08-2012, 08:46 AM	#40
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12-08-2012, 02:08 PM	#41
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