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I dunno, how's everyone else improving it? I own a BRZ, I drive a BRZ, I voted for it with real money. But I don't pretend it's perfect or make excuses for Toyobaru.
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I think that’s one of the best things about this platform. There is enough aftermarket support it can be anything you want. And nobody will ever agree on what is perfect. If Toyobaru built it to Porsche 911 or even Cayman price levels people would flip out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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There are far more expensive cars than these out there that have torque dips but nobody is whining about them.
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Aftermarket is great... but CARB legal? I know, no one wants to talk about it or even pretend that they care... But remember all the CA people swapping back to stock exhaust for a short time? Oh well.
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Here's a crazy idea. New "exhaust manifold" design from the factory, 50 state legal.
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Those more expensive cars also aren't starting with best-case ratings of 150 ft/lb at the crank. Additionally, they aren't cars whose chassis are so well developed that such low numbers to begin with become so glaringly obvious. Complaining about mediocre power or a torque dip isn't any more foolish than complaining about narrow tires or soft spring rates; it's just far more expensive to remedy.
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To solve what? That factory cat is the primary choke point. Plenty of dyno's of punched out stock manifolds that show good improvement. Even after market headers have a high flow cat and will not likely meet EPA or Euro standards. And you can't just lean out the car to reduce CO emission because you start to raise NOx emissions.
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NEWSFLASH!!!!!!! The emissions and mileage REQUIREMENTS that come into place over the next few years mean that even the best of the current engines will fail them by 2025. Don't expect them to continue to make the high revving, big HP numbers they have for the last 20 years. They will be gone in most of this forums lifetime. On the plus side electric cars have gobs of torque so the people that can't merge or pass because of the dip should be happy.
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I wish Toyota had brought the Yaris GR here (I think that’s what it is called). What a fun little car that could be! I’m ok with some sacrifices for a lighter car (noisier, fewer features, etc) but I couldn’t drive a Yaris with the interior stripped out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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And it's not because it's a fault of the car. It's because someone got their feelings hurt that I wanted to pass them, and they did the classic thing of either speeding up when I pulled out to pass, or closing a gap on the highway. Both are situations where I wouldn't try to pass regardless of the vehicle I was in. Still not sure why there are so many complaints about the twins being slow, if I'm being honest. Go out to a HPDE, autox, whatever organised event and you'll quickly find out that the car is probably more than you can handle. I know I was humbled very quickly when I turned traction control off on the second run of my second autox event. Edit: Would I like more power? Of course I would, who wouldn't? |
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