Brake failure at the race track

[EAGLE5]

I find PFC pads very livable on the street.

[bhmax]

I’ve used Raybestos ST45 and ST47 track and street for over 3 years. I taper the pad edges and use high temp grease to prevent noises. About the only bad thing is the front rotors get eaten away a bit quickly. I had used one fluid (Motul 600 maybe?) and I’d start to get a bit of pedal travel change later in track sessions. I’ve been using Prospeed fluid lately and pedal is rock solid for extended sessions. I also trimmed the front dust shields slightly and have some Porsche air deflectors to get a bit more cooling, but I’m not sure if they help much or not. Cheap though. It’s pretty awesome to be able to trust the brakes as much as I do, and I notice being able to brake much later than others on track. Definitely find a solution to prevent that from happening again!

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by cjd

That's the right call. Track pads on the street is safer than street pads on the track.

Expense is never easy to calculate. Over time, those $400 pads are very possibly cheaper... Just like a BBK can pay for itself.

This. If you end up outgrowing those pads, you now own a nice set of expensive paperweights. On the other hand, having too much pad will never hurt your experience, and sometimes it's better to know brakes will not be a failure point for you.

My current set of CSG pads with Brembo fronts on my turbocharged brz is on track for about ~30 days of life on track.

[strat61caster]

XP10s are livable on the street if they're well bedded, Gloc R10 is a similar compound. Happy with mine as an amateur pad, I couldn't keep them bedded so they were noisey for me, you track more than I ever did so might be ok.

[biggie]

Here are some pictures with my front pads.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by biggie

Track pads it is then!

Considering that I'm not (yet) willing to spend 400$ on pads for front only and recommendations on this topic (THANKS GUYS! ) my top 3 would be (in no particular order):
CARBOTECH XP10
Project Mu Club Racer
HAWK DTC-60

I think you got an idea of my current needs so I would appreciate your recommendation! Thanks!

P.S. still not willing to change pads for track/street

Let me know what kind of courses you'll be frequently attending and what tire you're planning to run on a consistent basis. Just as a disclaimer, those are good entry level track pads. If you cook those, you'll have to understand it's the pad, not the other components of the brakes.

[biggie]

Originally Posted by CSG David

Let me know what kind of courses you'll be frequently attending and what tire you're planning to run on a consistent basis. Just as a disclaimer, those are good entry level track pads. If you cook those, you'll have to understand it's the pad, not the other components of the brakes.

Most frequently I go to this one - http://motorparkromania.ro - for time attack challenge type of racing.

I'm running Michelin PSS now but planning to switch to Federal 595 RS-PRO (I know these are not very good but there are some competition related constraints). Should be stickier than PSS.

The question would be which one of those 3 (or other suggestions - up to 250$) would be best for trackdays but still streetable

[mixxxx]

Originally Posted by biggie

Track pads it is then!

Considering that I'm not (yet) willing to spend 400$ on pads for front only and recommendations on this topic (THANKS GUYS! ) my top 3 would be (in no particular order):
CARBOTECH XP10
Project Mu Club Racer
HAWK DTC-60

I think you got an idea of my current needs so I would appreciate your recommendation! Thanks!

P.S. still not willing to change pads for track/street

Good decision. For a similar price of the Club Racer, get the ProjectMu 999 because racecar.

https://www.counterspacegarage.com/p...ont-brake-pads
https://www.counterspacegarage.com/p...9-brz-frs-rear

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by biggie

Here are some pictures with my front pads.

Melty melty! How are the rotors, lots of smearing?

[Gt86Force]

Go with stock rotors, steel brake lines, RBF600 (or similar) and Ferodo DS2500.
I've tracked a lot with that combo without issues, and stil daily driving the car.

[biggie]

Originally Posted by wparsons

Melty melty! How are the rotors, lots of smearing?

They look quite good, no smearing at all. Strange...

[biggie]

Originally Posted by Gt86Force

Go with stock rotors, steel brake lines, RBF600 (or similar) and Ferodo DS2500.
I've tracked a lot with that combo without issues, and stil daily driving the car.

Brake lines are on their way (stoptech), already using Castrol SRF (should be even better than motul) and I think I made up my mind and I'm going for Carbotech XP10.

Still debating about rotors...slotted or plain!?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Gt86Force

Go with stock rotors, steel brake lines, RBF600 (or similar) and Ferodo DS2500.
I've tracked a lot with that combo without issues, and stil daily driving the car.

"works for me =/= works for you"

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by biggie

Brake lines are on their way (stoptech), already using Castrol SRF (should be even better than motul) and I think I made up my mind and I'm going for Carbotech XP10.

Still debating about rotors...slotted or plain!?

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