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NoHaveMSG · 02-25-2018, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DesertLava

But if you tune for 4000ft and have shorter pulleys then go to sea level you can over boost and blow your engine. Read CSG Mike post above.

It's safe to run sea level tune and pulleys and just deal with the loss at 4000ft. But a tune and pulleys for 4000ft would definitely risk blowing the engine at sea level. Unless you want to run two different tunes every single day you would have to change pulleys at sea level for a 4000ft optimized tune or sacrifice performance at elevation with a sea level optimized tune.

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How much power are you looking for? I rode in a guys car a while ago, made 340hp to the wheels and he DD'd it around 40 miles one way. Stock motor. Based on what you are saying in your OP that is more then what you want even at elevation.

DesertLava · 02-25-2018, 11:00 PM

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How much power are you looking for? I rode in a guys car a while ago, made 340hp to the wheels and he DD'd it around 40 miles one way. Stock motor. Based on what you are saying in your OP that is more then what you want even at elevation.

270/200 at elevation and whatever that means at sea level is more than enough for me.

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new2subaru · 02-25-2018, 11:13 PM

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Perhaps saying that I was okay with NA performance at sea level is adequate was a mistake. If I'm paying $5,000+ I'll want some performance improvement. Not chasing numbers, as it is my DD. But some improvement will be welcomed. Not planning to track it and be competitive at least until I can replace it's DD duty with a Tacoma.

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I would just buy a CARB legal kit with tune and call it a day. I'm sure you will have plenty of power for your needs. Most are in the 250WHP range give or take.

CSG Mike · 02-25-2018, 11:59 PM

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270/200 at elevation and whatever that means at sea level is more than enough for me.

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Sounds like a bolt-on kit is perfect for your needs.

FRS Justin · 02-26-2018, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Sounds like a bolt-on kit is perfect for your needs.

What this guy says.....

Harey · 02-26-2018, 03:55 AM

I think the thread was asking which kit. Looks like turbo is confirmed.

What are your preferences on the kit DesertLava? You will be able to choose a pretty basic kit to satisfy those power goals.

DesertLava · 02-26-2018, 03:57 AM

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I think the thread was asking which kit. Looks like turbo is confirmed.

What are your preferences on the kit DesertLava? You will be able to choose a pretty basic kit to satisfy those power goals.

That's where I have no real idea. I'll have to do a lot more digging and visit local shops who can advise me on the decision.

I'm lucky enough to be local to CSG and Delicious Tuning but there are so many turbo kits out there. Looking for the most solid stage 1 kit available. Don't know if there is a popular consensus among this forum as to which kit that is. I also need to figure out if my car being automatic will cause any additional researching.

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Harey · 02-26-2018, 04:11 AM

So reliability is high on the list, does it need to be carb legal? What fuel?

DesertLava · 02-26-2018, 04:35 AM

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So reliability is high on the list, does it need to be carb legal? What fuel?

CARB legal, yes. Fuel I pump 91 in Southern CA. Typically Costco or Chevron.

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CSG Mike · 02-26-2018, 05:32 AM

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CARB legal, yes. Fuel I pump 91 in Southern CA. Typically Costco or Chevron.

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Then you're stuck with WORKS, and... well... the only selling point of it is that it's CARB legal.

It makes CARB supercharger levels of power, but with turbo lag. You're better off going supercharger.

x808drifter · 02-26-2018, 04:48 PM

Also sounds like your gonna have to pay someone to install this for you.
All in your gonna be near 6-8K for cost.

Xxyion · 02-26-2018, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Then you're stuck with WORKS, and... well... the only selling point of it is that it's CARB legal.

It makes CARB supercharger levels of power, but with turbo lag. You're better off going supercharger.

This.

Only CARB legal turbo for our cars is from WORKS. And its a 6000$ kit. And only roughly makes 220-240 whp on 91 pump.

PhyrraM · 02-27-2018, 06:03 PM

A question from another view point...

It sounds like you are asking for MAX power both at high elevation AND at sea level. Or am in misunderstanding it and you want MAX power at sea level and simply MORE than stock power at elevation?

If you are in the inland empire (Redlands to Ontario) you are more than welcome to take a ride in my supercharged (Harrop, but Edelbrock is same) 2017 (manual trans). We can even zip up to Big Bear to test elevation. I haven't even had a chance to do that yet myself.

CSG Mike · 02-27-2018, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PhyrraM

A question from another view point...

It sounds like you are asking for MAX power both at high elevation AND at sea level. Or am in misunderstanding it and you want MAX power at sea level and simply MORE than stock power at elevation?

If you are in the inland empire (Redlands to Ontario) you are more than welcome to take a ride in my supercharged (Harrop, but Edelbrock is same) 2017 (manual trans). We can even zip up to Big Bear to test elevation. I haven't even had a chance to do that yet myself.

This sounds fun.

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02-26-2018, 03:55 AM	#34
Harey Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 70 Thanks: 34 Thanked 23 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think the thread was asking which kit. Looks like turbo is confirmed. What are your preferences on the kit DesertLava? You will be able to choose a pretty basic kit to satisfy those power goals.

02-26-2018, 04:11 AM	#36
Harey Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 70 Thanks: 34 Thanked 23 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So reliability is high on the list, does it need to be carb legal? What fuel?

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x808drifter LMGTFY Join Date: Mar 2016 Drives: 13 FRS, 91 Miata Location: Lava Town, HI Posts: 2,776 Thanks: 5,561 Thanked 3,650 Times in 1,625 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Also sounds like your gonna have to pay someone to install this for you. All in your gonna be near 6-8K for cost.

02-27-2018, 06:03 PM	#41
PhyrraM Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '17 BRZ PP, old Legacy SSs and SVXs Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 119 Thanks: 34 Thanked 85 Times in 49 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	A question from another view point... It sounds like you are asking for MAX power both at high elevation AND at sea level. Or am in misunderstanding it and you want MAX power at sea level and simply MORE than stock power at elevation? If you are in the inland empire (Redlands to Ontario) you are more than welcome to take a ride in my supercharged (Harrop, but Edelbrock is same) 2017 (manual trans). We can even zip up to Big Bear to test elevation. I haven't even had a chance to do that yet myself.

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