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Old 02-08-2017, 04:56 PM   #29
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I'm bone stock. Been threatening to start tinkering for a long time. I'm leaning toward first learning how to swap ECUs so I know I can quickly get back to stock if I brick my beater one. I'm chicken.
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I'm bone stock. Been threatening to start tinkering for a long time. I'm leaning toward first learning how to swap ECUs so I know I can quickly get back to stock if I brick my beater one. I'm chicken.
I don't think there's much risk of that anymore, not with ECUTEK. But I can appreciate that worry. I keep a spare phone incase my modding bug cause me to brick my daily driver. It happened last weekend actually. I managed to get it back to life, but there was about an hour where I was getting pretty nervous.
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I'm bone stock. Been threatening to start tinkering for a long time. I'm leaning toward first learning how to swap ECUs so I know I can quickly get back to stock if I brick my beater one. I'm chicken.
The risk of "bricking" ECU is pretty small with any flash system as long as you follow some simple checks. applies to all systems

its actually pretty difficult to brick them unless you do something weird or are extremely unlucky.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99171



swaping out an ecu is pretty easy, any 2012-2016 ecu will work as long as you have ability to flash the correct rom into the new ecu.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2579291

ive seen ecu for as low as $60 in usa but i doubt you will need one
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The risk of "bricking" ECU is pretty small with any flash system as long as you follow some simple checks. applies to all systems
Thanks, Steve. I've been following you and your friends' stuff since I first joined. It's all a matter of practice and practical experience. You are amazingly supportive to all us noobs.
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Pedal dance. Cut the vehicle stability system out of the circuit. It's my pet peeve so I'm the guy that does it even in stop&go traffic.
I thought I was the only one.
I'm about to pull fuses FFS.
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So many morons are going to be driving around in pedal dance mode, thinking they're excellent drivers... until they're not.
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So many morons are going to be driving around in pedal dance mode, thinking they're excellent drivers... until they're not.
Then there's the flip side; people driving with traction, stability and other aids on that drive way past their limits because they think the electronic aids will save them. When I turn off traction control it's always in the back of my mind and I drive like I could lose traction at any corner.
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So many morons are going to be driving around in pedal dance mode, thinking they're excellent drivers... until they're not.
You say that like every single car ever produced has a sky hook to keep it on the road. The only people who are going to have a problem, are the ones who have relied on it for far too long.
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I have searched and searched, but there doesn't seem to be too much information on fixing the slight delay between pushing in the gas pedal and the engine revving. Occasionally I find myself yearning for my old 240's instant response.

I have a K&N filter, Gruppe-s UEL header and the Openflash Tablet with OTS stage 2. Is there anything I could do to eliminate or lessen throttle delay?

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how long ago did you flash the tune? i know that every single time ive ever had to reflash that the first few degrees of pedal travel get 'numb' for the first 50-100 miles of driving. dont know if this is what you're feeling but i have mods not crazy dissimilar to yours and other than this self correcting issue ive never felt like there was a throttle delay.
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You say that like every single car ever produced has a sky hook to keep it on the road. The only people who are going to have a problem, are the ones who have relied on it for far too long.
You might be a magical driver, but others aren't.

It's not there for when everything is going great. Modern stability control and traction control is friggin amazing. It does things that no driver could ever do.

It's there to help you if you're on the road with other drivers -- unpredictable, stupid drivers -- who will cut you off, slam on their brakes at something you can't see in front of them, swerve around, have shit fall off their trucks and give you a split second to react.

Leave the pedal dance for the track.
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how long ago did you flash the tune? i know that every single time ive ever had to reflash that the first few degrees of pedal travel get 'numb' for the first 50-100 miles of driving. dont know if this is what you're feeling but i have mods not crazy dissimilar to yours and other than this self correcting issue ive never felt like there was a throttle delay.
Current tune is a few weeks, but the last one was months. It definitely improves as the ecu learns the fuel trims, but there is still a delay. If I had started driving "drive by wire" cars when I was younger I'm sure I wouldn't care or notice.

Try driving at a steady RPM and then stab the throttle slightly for just a half second and let off, you will notice the engine seems to rev after you have let off the throttle. The cable throttles I'm used to had zero delay, it felt like there was a solid connection to the engine with your foot.
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You say that like every single car ever produced has a sky hook to keep it on the road. The only people who are going to have a problem, are the ones who have relied on it for far too long.
I almost responded earlier today. You're never going to convince this kind of sanctimonious bullshit. It's up to the individual. I fucking hate the nannies. they're sloppy, slow, and sneaky. They literally intrude on my own rhythm on ice and hydroplaning. All these bulllshit features that try to be substitutes for personal responsibility just sicken me.
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