Help us choose between two Scions

[Chimera]

Originally Posted by pauldz

Thanks, I think he mainly likes the black one due to the Invidia exhaust, any thoughts on that? Does it typically add or detract value?

not 1500 in value imo.


exhaust is easily swappable, and besides, suppose he does get a ticket, wouldn't be nice to have the stock in the garage instead of having to go buy a stock set of pipes.

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by pauldz

Thanks, I think he mainly likes the black one due to the Invidia exhaust, any thoughts on that? Does it typically add or detract value?

Conventional wisdom is that a stock car will be worth more (all else equal).
Reasoning is that you don't know what parts were installed, and how they were installed.
Not sure if you could use it as a bargaining chip though.

You could probably find a decent used exhaust (on the forums even), for a reasonable price. It'd be a good idea to find out what wheels are on the car (ie. Are they replicas, or brand name wheels).

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[ToySub1946]

KEEP LOOKING. Repeat...keep looking.

Surely there are tons of FRS/BRZ in Florida. And well worth one's time, if one must travel to get the best car.

I'd be looking for a car, never in an accident, never modded.

Does not matter where you find a car...private party sale, used car lot, new car dealership's used car lot....Certified means nothing to me...just means I'm gonna pay more. And a used Toyota on the lot of a Toyota new car dealership does not necessarily mean it's a trade in. New car dealerships often buy their brand of used cars from auctions to have more of their brand on their lots. So anything goes.

When you do find the car, seen in person, you like...Drive it. Then take it to a mechanic you trust who'll look it over, including on a lift before buying.

The mechanic should first drive the car himself/herself, look carefully under the hood, look up under the dash, and in the trunk for evidence of flooding, look very carefully underside of car, up on a lift for any evidence of accidents and rough road usage.

Not all damage to vehicles is reported to Carfax. Not all Certified cars have been looked at by a tech who is competent and thorough. Do your own homework on any car you are interested in.

Makes sense to pay a little more to get a great used car.

LOL...retired used car tech here...at new car stealerships.

[wangson]

for the price and miles mentioned, have you considered try looking into a 10 Series FRS or maybe even lucky to find a monogram FRS?

[pauldz]

What's the 10 Series and the Monogram?

[Chimera]

Originally Posted by pauldz

What's the 10 Series and the Monogram?

Real limited editions of the frs

[LXXXV1]

Originally Posted by pauldz

What's the 10 Series and the Monogram?

Scion released a limited edition of the FR-S every year after the first year. These models were limited to 2000 sold in the US and usually came with more creature comforts. Alcantara/leather wrapped interior, heated seats, push button start, etc. Usually cost more and if you do decide for a limited version, I recommend looking at the BRZ as it should be cheaper.

Regarding these 2 options and if you're willing to spend $19k, I think you can definitely do better, at least in California. Idk the Florida market. I'd definitely avoid #1 too. All those "mods" listed can be sourced for less than $1.5K. If they're marketing it as "limited edition" when it's clearly not...raises a red flag in my book.

[wangson]

Originally Posted by pauldz

What's the 10 Series and the Monogram?

I private messaged you. Because I'm not sure if posting external links to carfax or cargurus are allowed.

[pauldz]

Is a custom Ingen intake good or bad?

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by pauldz

Is a custom Ingen intake good or bad?

Gives a nicer sound, but often also causes driveability issues (ie. Bogging, lumpy idle, stalling issues).
I had one, and my engine would sometimes just shut itself off for no reason (went back to stock airbox, and it never happened again)

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[KR-S]

Does the vehicle have any other modifications such as pulleys, headers (the exhaust manifold), and exhaust beyond just the catback?

Pulleys are known to have caused more harm than good on several other vehicles.

Any modifications that removes the catalytic converters (one on the exhaust manifold near the bottom of the engine and another in the middle of the exhaust system) could get you a ticket and a trip to the state ref, which would mean you would have to purchase the OEM part to replace the non-compliant aftermarket one. I don't live in Florida, so I wouldn't know how big of a deal of it is over there.

I take back what I said about picking the first one. Look for a better deal.

[pauldz]

"Does the vehicle have any other modifications such as pulleys, headers (the exhaust manifold), and exhaust beyond just the catback?"

Not sure, we did not look under the car.

[Summerwolf]

Are you new to buying cars?

[Watch Me Run]

Originally Posted by pauldz

"Does the vehicle have any other modifications such as pulleys, headers (the exhaust manifold), and exhaust beyond just the catback?"

Not sure, we did not look under the car.

You'd find pulleys on the front of the engine, ask a tech