Front camber? Noob

[Norinradd]

One look at the suspension and i understand how it all works. What does what. I just havent learned. Names yet. A control arm on a jeep is compleltey different looking than a control arm on the frs. Lol


But you are trying to tell me the strut assembly has nothing to do with camber?

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[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Norinradd

When i say shock i nean the entire strut assembly.

Are you saying the whole strut and spring have nothing to do with alignment? As they most certainly do.

All they do is set the resting position of the 4-bar linkage. The geometry of the linkage determines the camber function. It is not static.

I asked you to come up with a picture you would like to discuss partly so you would have the opportunity to start from a place of familiarity, partly to get you to invest a little in the discussion.

It seems like you're more interested in not being insulted than you are in learning.

[Norinradd]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

All they do is set the resting position of the 4-bar linkage. The geometry of the linkage determines the camber function. It is not static.

I asked you to come up with a picture you would like to discuss partly so you would have the opportunity to start from a place of familiarity, partly to get you to invest a little in the discussion.

It seems like you're more interested in not being insulted than you are in learning.

Lowering of the spring causes a change in the overall geometry though? No!? It must.

And i dont understand how looking at a photo together would help? I dont know what you want me to ask? Haha.


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[Norinradd]

Lowering of the spring causes a change in the overall geometry though? No!? It must.

And i dont understand how looking at a photo together would help? I dont know what you want me to ask? Haha. Not trying to be rude!

I just want to know what can be done and why my rear camber is out by 1.5 degree. Most likely after installing lowering springs. But Just may have excentuated it with the new wider wheels tires and springs.

Im going to re install the rears tomorrow and pay for another alignment. As there is also a clunk in the rear that is -2.5

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

All they do is set the resting position of the 4-bar linkage. The geometry of the linkage determines the camber function. It is not static.

I asked you to come up with a picture you would like to discuss partly so you would have the opportunity to start from a place of familiarity, partly to get you to invest a little in the discussion.

It seems like you're more interested in not being insulted than you are in learning.

Wasting your time with this one Ultra. He will change his story and reference his "jeep with the one ton suspension" a thousand times. Then when he finally gets it he we say he knew that all along and call us all jerks that don't know anything. Save you help for somebody that appreciates it.

[Norinradd]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Wasting your time with this one Ultra. He will change his story and reference his "jeep with the one ton suspension" a thousand times. Then when he finally gets it he we say he knew that all along and call us all jerks that don't know anything. Save you help for somebody that appreciates it.

Thanks tcoat. The trolliest troll in thr trollverse. Keep it in your pants


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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Norinradd

Thanks tcoat. The trolliest troll in thr trollverse. Keep it in your pants


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Your welcome. Not trolling at all and my statement is supported by documented facts throughout several threads. If you want hep don't argue with every single person that says something. Ultra is trying to help you LEARN what is required not simply spoon feed you. You claim to know but then have no grasp of even the basics. Just try listening to them and not resist everything they say.

[Norinradd]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Your welcome. Not trolling at all and my statement is supported by documented facts throughout several threads. If you want hep don't argue with every single person that says something. Ultra is trying to help you LEARN what is required not simply spoon feed you. You claim to know but then have no grasp of even the basics. Just try listening to them and not resist everything they say.

So explain to me how a lowering spring doesnt change geometry of suspension? Then explain how a posting a photo of a rear end will help me learn? Help me learn what? Terminology? Cant figure that out by reading the diagram myself.

I dont own any aligment tools. So i dont understand how learning how to do an alignment will help atm.

All i want is opinions on what to look at. Be it new parts or existing. Not treated like someone who doesnt know how to turn a wrench.

95% of my posts are positive interactions. Like why did u even need to come in here just to shit on me? Once again. For like the 15th time. Cant you just leave me alone unless you have something productive to say? Geez man. Youre going to make me create a new account


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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Norinradd

So explain to me how a lowering spring doesnt change geometry of suspension? Then explain how a posting a photo of a rear end will help me learn? Help me learn what? Terminology? Cant figure that out by reading the diagram myself.

I dont own any aligment tools. So i dont understand how learning how to do an alignment will help atm.

All i want is opinions on what to look at. Be it new parts or existing. Not treated like someone who doesnt know how to turn a wrench.


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[Norinradd]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

95% of my posts are positive interactions. Like why did u even need to come in here just to shit on me? Once again. For like the 15th time. Cant you just leave me alone unless you have something productive or positive to say? Geez man. Youre going to make me create a new account


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[Boomerang]

Originally Posted by Norinradd

95% of my posts are positive interactions. Like why did u even need to come in here just to shit on me? Once again. For like the 15th time. Cant you just leave me alone unless you have something productive or positive to say? Geez man. Youre going to make me create a new account


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What's your new user name bro?

[Norinradd]

majority of the time on a tech forum an op is stressed out and in a bind about something that theyre stuck on. Coming on here just to be a nag and try to give attitude adjustments is ridiculous. Not the place man. Straight answers. Opinions. Ppl Dont need to be policed and put down.

I think in the 50 times uve came into one of MY threads and posted. Maybe twice its been helpful. The other 48 have been extremely negative and sour. like you hope to get a rowled response. The definition of a troll.

Ive even asked you.
More than once to stop posting in my threads. Yet you cant help yourself


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[Norinradd]

Like when i disagree with advice i genuinely want to be proven wrong. So then i understand. If you cant explain your own advice why should i recieve it as truth


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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Norinradd

majority of the time on a tech forum an op is stressed out and in a bind about something that theyre stuck on. Coming on here just to be a nag and try to give attitude adjustments is ridiculous. Not the place man. Straight answers. Opinions. Ppl Dont need to be policed and put down.

I think in the 50 times uve came into one of MY threads and posted. Maybe twice its been helpful. The other 48 have been extremely negative and sour. like you hope to get a rowled response. The definition of a troll.

Ive even asked you.
More than once to stop posting in my threads. Yet you cant help yourself


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If you review my posts in your thread you will without a doubt find that in all of them I (and many others) attempt to help. It is not until you become defiant and aggressive that the tone changes.
I simply stated here that if you LISTEN to what people are telling you that you will LEARN things and can figure out the issues on your own. In this thread alone you have challenged and countered almost everything people told you. I AM trying to help you understand how to get the info you want. You are just totally missing my point.

Now stop bitching at me and let your thread get back on topic.