Supra Inspired FRS- Tail light conversion

[mav1178]

"Light car" + 2JZ....

yeah, I can't really take this thread serious anymore.

[Mule]

Originally Posted by mav1178

"Light car" + 2JZ....

yeah, I can't really take this thread serious anymore.

Cool, easiest thing to do next time would be to not reply!


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[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by mav1178

yeah, I can't really take this thread serious anymore.

Any more? You took it seriously to begin with?

[Dake]

I'll be honest, it's not immediately awful looking - but that's at first glance and only because of the wide-body kit on the example you've chosen. I don't think they'd work on a stock 86. I guess you'd also need to have a split so the three innermost lights lifted with the trunk lid while the outermost was stationary.

[extrashaky]

Looks like a Leepu Special to me.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Mule

Cool, easiest thing to do next time would be to not reply!


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Are you new to forums?

[8RZ]

His skin must not have thickened yet.

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by 8RZ

His skin must not have thickened yet.

I think they have a cream for that.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by 8RZ

His skin must not have thickened yet.

I know what is lacking!

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by VAcuban

What do yall think of my concept?

Originally Posted by Mule

Cool, easiest thing to do next time would be to not reply!

Tell that to OP when he solicited opinions on his idea of a "Supra but not really a Supra and not really paying for a Supra" conversion idea.

[mazeroni]

Originally Posted by VAcuban

Not gonna lie, I didn't even think about the license plate fitment issue. Here's a to scale license plate thrown up there to see how it looks.

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I'd prefer to have the license plate moved down off the trunk completely. Also, if you could modify the truck opening so it runs between the lights, that would make more sense as well. As others have pointed out, you would have to rethink the trunk opening - make it much smaller and less practical.

But I like the design of the supra lights, and you totally have my approval in this theoretical - massive re sculpting project that will cost as much as the new Supra (I assume).

[VAcuban]

Originally Posted by KR-S 86

Also, Gazoo Racing beat you to the punch years ago.

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Weird, they look like TSX lights.

Originally Posted by Mule

Holy shit a 2JZ 86 sounds so legit. Very nice pairing. Nvrmnd the lights, focus all your energy on this beautiful transplant idea!

Mr original idea for the perfect motor swap was the S2000 inline 4 but the 2JZ might be the most compelling alternative I've heard to date...


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Haha, they're fairly common now. There's even a company (4 hour drive from me) that sells wiring harness kits for this swap.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR_kQgv4lts"]plug n play electronics kit[/ame]

Originally Posted by mav1178

"Light car" + 2JZ....

yeah, I can't really take this thread serious anymore.

Yeah, light and heavy descriptors are relative.. as in in depends on what other cars weigh. The FRS compared to other cars I would consider light (*) are in the same range as you can see..

Dodge Challenger STR ~39-4500 lbs.
Nissan GTR ~38-3900 lbs.
Chevy Camaro SS ~3700lbs.
BMW M3 ~3600 lbs.
Toyota Supra ~3500 lbs.
Mitsubishi EVO VIII ~3300 lbs.
Chevy Corvette Z06 ~35-3600 lbs.
Ford Focus RS ~3500 lbs.
Subaru STI ~3500 lbs.
Nissan 370z Nismo ~33-3400 lbs.
Mitsubishi Eclipse GST ~2900 lbs.
*Honda Civic Si ~2900 lbs.
*Honda S2000 ~28-2900 lbs.
*Nissan 240sx ~28-2900 lbs.
*Toyota 86/FRS ~2800 lbs.
*Honda CR-Z ~27-2800 lbs.
*1966 Shelby Cobra 2500 lbs.
*Mazda Miata ~23-2400 lbs.

FA20 w/ Transmission 480 lbs.
2JZ w/ Transmission 746 lbs.

The FRS with 200 hp 2.0L H4 FA20 weighs ~ 2800 lbs. Power/weight ratio: 13.8 lbs. per hp.
FRS with a 325hp 3.0L inline 6 2JZ-GTE weighs ~3000 lbs. Power/weight ratio: 9.2 lbs. per hp.

Is a 3000 lb. 2JZ FRS still considered light? Well compared to other 6 cylinder platforms, yes. They're still 300 lbs. lighter than 370zs, 5-600 lbs. lighter than Supras & EVOs (4cyl), and about 900 lbs. lighter than GTRs.

Power to weight Ratios:
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1966 Shelby Cobra 5 lbs/hp
Chevy Corvette Z06 5.5 lbs/hp
Nissan GTR 7.0 lbs/hp (AWD)
BMW M3 8.0 lbs/hp
Chevy Camaro SS 8.1 lbs/hp
Dodge Challenger STR8 8.8 lbs/hp
**Toyota 86/FRS (2JZ) 9.2 lbs/hp**
Nissan 370z Nismo 9.7 lbs/hp
Ford Focus RS 9.9 lbs/hp (AWD)
Toyota Supra 10.6 lbs/hp
Subaru STI 11.3 lbs/hp (AWD)
Mitsubishi EVO VIII 11.8 lbs/hp (AWD)
Honda S2000 11.9 lbs/hp
Mitsubishi Eclipse GST 13.7 lbs/hp
Toyota 86/FRS 13.8 lbs/hp
Honda Civic Si 14.1 lbs/hp
Mazda Miata 15 lbs/hp
Nissan 240sx 18.1 lbs/hp
Honda CR-Z 20.4 lbs/hp

Say what you want, but the money spent on a swap that puts an FRS smack dab between a Challenger SRT8 and 370z nismo with a STOCK 2JZ, is impressive enough. But keeping in mind that the 2JZ is a stock motor and can easily be upgraded and tuned to 450 whp with very little work/$ coupled with the fact that, that amount of hp is not even pushing the limits of the 2JZ (like an FA20 would be) makes it a very reliable range for a potential daily.

Hell, a 2JZ 86/FRS @ 450 rwhp (523 crank) puts it at 5.7 lbs/hp.. right in between the 66 Shelby Cobra and 2017 Z06. Well worth the money for a fast car that's light and fun to drive.

And for the record, anyone who wants to suggest how much money this is going to cost, please understand I'm not some teenager on a budget. I'm a 30 year old single man with no kids with a decent job/income. Expensive is relative to your income. Besides, this would be a project car because building cars is a hobby of mine. I have 8 years of experience as a weapons engineer, a garage to work on things, with all the tools I need, and the internet for a resource. I'll be alright.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by VAcuban

And for the record, anyone who wants to suggest how much money this is going to cost, please understand I'm not some teenager on a budget. I'm a 30 year old single man with no kids with a decent job/income. Expensive is relative to your income.

But you didn't want a Supra because they cost to much. Instead you put a total of about $50K (counting custom body work) into some sort of Supra wantta be.
I can find loads of them for way less than half that price and that is in Canada where they are pretty rare.


http://www.kijiji.ca/b-cars-trucks/o...004a54a1000054

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by KR-S 86

No need to wait. Gazoo Racing already did this.

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That's not HIS build.