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12-23-2021, 10:03 AM | #29 |
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Why BRZ Over GR86?
Subaru improved the chassis and then Toyota reverted the changes to save money.
I believed the marketing lines of wanting an different driving experience initially, but all they did was bolt on old ZC6 parts to the ZD8, and most car journalists say the difference in feel is absolutely negligible from the driver’s seat. Now I’m convinced it was all about cost all along. Subaru saw fit to spend the money on these improvements, I’ll take those improvements then TYVM. |
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12-23-2021, 10:12 AM | #30 |
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There are very few NA journalists that I trust to tell me the truth about handling dynamics at and well over the limit. There a few but most are as helpful as the brochure.
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12-23-2021, 11:31 AM | #31 |
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1. Got it in November vs waiting around for local Toyota dealer to stop jerking off (they're that bad).
2. More refined ride, it's a daily and road trip machine for me not a track toy. I actually like the additional NVH reduction in the BRZ. 3. Aluminum knuckles. 4. Not a fan of black wheels, Gunmetal 18's on the BRZ looks very slick. 5. Front end looks better IMO. 6. Not really the car but I'm in love with the STI shifter, and an STI shifter doesn't exactly work right on a Toyota. |
12-23-2021, 01:03 PM | #32 |
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I live in Canada and i did some maths; Paid my brz under msrp, financing rate are better with Subaru, also the MSRP is lower with the BRZ. All in all, i'm saving about 4500-5000$ with the Subaru. Simple choice for me!
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12-23-2021, 02:17 PM | #33 |
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[QUOTE=PBR;3490892]I think the BRZ looks better.
But I love them both. We would have neither, without the other. I'm so glad they broke the cycle of reviewers pushing horsepower wars. Reviewers ruined the auto industry. Most of the so-called cool cars have to go way above the legal limit to get into the fun-zone. BRZ/86s are fun all through the gear and rev ranges without getting into illegal speeds. My first fun drive, I went through 2 speed traps without getting pulled over. If I had gotten the Mustang Mach 1, which I almost got instead, I would have already been in danger of losing my license. It's just dumb to buy cars that the fun zone is so far past the legal driving limit for street driving. Yet revewers keep pushing for speed/horsepower wars. BRZ/86 breaks that cycle. And I LOVE them both! |
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I like the front end of the BRZ better. It looks like a friendly catfish.
Also in Canada, base model for BRZ is 2k cheaper. |
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12-23-2021, 02:31 PM | #36 |
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Couldn't agree more. Can't go wrong with either. Antidote to the race to the heaviest and most powerful. Never understood that game unless you drive behind a keyboard lol.
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12-23-2021, 02:53 PM | #37 |
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My thoughts exactly. Or have people not been able to play nicely in the past?
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Yeah but that was for a rear engined car and placing ballast like that isn't ideal. This has an almost 55/45 front to rear weight distribution. It doesn't need any more weight on front end. But I agree. There will be more tests to come beyond the Japanese press day vids and at the end of the day, anything you don't like can be changed. I like the black Toyota badges better and might switch bumpers at some point lol. |
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Also I deeply regret that Toyota didn't bring its auto rev-matching tech to the MT car. What a missed opportunity to expand the MT's appeal. |
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