$56k LS3 Rocket Bunny Package

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Cole

A sleeper, you say? With a wide body kit, huge wheels, lowered, a nasty V8 burble coming from the exhaust? I didn't realize all those tell-tale mods stil equaled sleeper.

To be fair lots of body-kitted, winged, loud rumbly 86's that aren't much faster (probably some slower) than stock.

Originally Posted by NOHOME

My assumption is that for that price you supply the car, and it does not include the paint job.

Price-wise, that would put it in line for a comparable LS3 Miata conversion performed by Flying Miata.

I sure hope not, but you might be right. I believe the one LS3 86 that's been on the market was asking somewhere around $46k:

Prices have yet to be announced, but Enrico thinks the complete car will probably sell for around the €50,000 (US$56,000) mark.

Once they get the method down and mass produce the custom fabbed bits needed I imagine the two biggest costs of the build would be sourcing the chassis and motor, if the customer is fine with not using fresh off the boat components that could easily be done for under $30k, full RB is <$5k, wheels and tires to choice but can be done under $2k, Bilsteins are $1.6k, Brakes could be up to $4k I honestly don't know on that one but that basically leaves $10k for the custom fab, labor, electronics and profit.

If you're supplying the car then they've got an additional ~$30k for fab, labor, custom parts, and profit which seems way too expensive for an engine swap and some bolt ons as it's being advertised in the article. The Flyin' Miata V8 car supplies a new crate motor and a significant amount of chassis, suspension, and electronic modifications that are labor intensive. Here's their shopping list for the parts that doesn't include the new crate engine, ecu and transmission totaling ~$18k:

https://www.flyinmiata.com/V8/costsNC.php

Where Flyin Miata costs explode is seam welding the entire chassis, installing the wiring loom, new bushings all around, performance alignment, new fuel system install, dyno tuning, new insulation etc. Each of those things cost hundreds if not thousands easily eating up the remaining $20k of budget after factoring in the $12k for the engine/tranny/ecu combo.

Maybe the Brill guys plan on offering all those additional modifications, but right now it seems like an LS3 swap and some bolt-ons, which imo is feasible for the $25k-$35k they're charging if the car is included in the estimated $56k price.

[8R6]

basically a legitimate modern-day supra

[drewbot]

$50k and you don't even get the nicest sticky tires?

1/10 would not bang

/s

[FR-Sky]

I would get a 2jz instead =[

[spitfire481]

"all creature comforts are retained". car wont even run in the stage the pics are in. i never understood features of incomplete cars

[Nessal]

Originally Posted by NOHOME

My assumption is that for that price you supply the car, and it does not include the paint job.

Price-wise, that would put it in line for a comparable LS3 Miata conversion performed by Flying Miata.

If that was the case, then the price would be around 80k. That is MSRP for a new C7 Z06.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by 8R6

basically a legitimate modern-day supra

I think you mean "Japanese Corvette".

MKIV Supra was a legitimate GT with comfy mannerisms, not a tin can with a big engine like this thing.

[8R6]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

I think you mean "Japanese Corvette".

MKIV Supra was a legitimate GT with comfy mannerisms, not a tin can with a big engine like this thing.

yeah i guess. i was trying to stay within the toyota family (besides the powertrain lol)

[P86RAVES]

I came in here ready to hate this and point out all the flaws.

I really like this.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Although he expressed it a little salty I get where he was coming from. I like the looks of a well done RB kit. But to ME well done includes filling the rivets and seam lines. Leaving them like that just screams "look at me I have a RB kit". It just doesn't seem complete for a $50+K car. Just my opinion please don't kill me.

That's pretty much where I am...love the color, love the drive train, and would actually love the aero if it didn't look like a stuck on piece of kit. The color (at least in the photos) comes very close to camouflaging the RB, probably the best I've seen, but not good enough.

Take all that off, put on some tires that fit in the standard body, I would be tempting particularly given that might trim as much as $10K off the price (how much is the RB kit installed by itself?)

Of course, you may need all that rubber to get the power down.

[NOHOME]

Originally Posted by Nessal

If that was the case, then the price would be around 80k. That is MSRP for a new C7 Z06.

And your point would be....?

FM has a line for their products and the same argument applies. You might be surprised to know that some people actually don't want a Corvette.

If I were put in a parking lot with a Vorshlag swapped FRS and a New Vette, and told to take one home, it would be the FRS even knowing that the Vette is a better car in many ways.

Then again, my car projects indicate that I am not a rational person.

[ichitaka05]

RS-R will be like "580hp? We beat ya!"


^RS-R Coyote engine swap is a true sleeper car. Looks stock... til you hear it roar.

Back on topic, this article had a lot of contradiction like "The idea here was to keep everything as stock as possible" um... what part of RB kit was stock? or "Brill Steel will also throw on Brembo/STI brakes front and rear to help cope with the newfound performance." I hope just Brembo and not from STI, cuz they're reserved and not actually work for our cars.

There are several other things I would point out... I think, they did good job building that BRZ. Specially loving the color.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Take all that off, put on some tires that fit in the standard body, I would be tempting particularly given that might trim as much as $10K off the price (how much is the RB kit installed by itself?)

Of course, you may need all that rubber to get the power down.

A base C7 Corvette comes with 245 front and 285 rear at 455 horsepower so roughly 9" wide wheels up front and 10" wide in the rear should do the trick, no body kit required with the right wheel offsets and some fender massaging. Although I would probably shoot for square 255 or 265 on 9" wheels in a quality compound and not bother with mucking around with the fenders.

Element tuning's old thoughts on wheel sizes:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...0&postcount=22
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=40

Pic of a 275 crammed on a 9" wheel:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=110

tl;dr the rocketbunny is mostly for looks, you can fit a good amount of tire on an 86 without mawds and compound > size.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by olsonpg

I would say because racecar...

I would say because poser.