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09-19-2018, 06:49 PM | #29 |
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Guys attack shiv but at least he isn't pumping his product shamelessly
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Either way a header is needed for this car unless you turbo. |
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The op asked about 2 brands of header and once again we got another bullshit thread full of purchase justification and fanboyism.
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Yup! Everyone always throws ACE down their throats as though they can just fork out that money. The HKS and Tomei are reasonably priced and perform just fine.
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were they running stock front pipe or aftermarket ?? Ive personally seen same car same dyno same fuel make 10kw at wheels different from a 5C day to a 38C day As well almost everyone that forks out $1500 plus for an ace header gets a custom tune which is understandable. but its not rearly a fair comparison if your comparing it to the person who used a different header and is on a canned tune. most canned tunes expect your going to run good 93, so again if the person with canned tune runs 91 its not going to be optimum. most canned tunes also tend to run rich so its safe for all cars, again this costs some power. The ACE is a good header and does work well on 91 due better scavaging than most other headers. but this advantage is reduced if you run good 93 fuel and further reduced if you run E85. when you factor in custom ecutek tune licience and cable the price difference gets bigger If your not a fairly serious track/auto x person it may not be worth the extra money to a lot of people especially if you run E85 fuels |
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That's the most sensible post so far.
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As I already stated both are custom dyno Tuned. And With HKS having higher octane. 92 vs 91
As for the other things Temps July in WA for HKS May in Cali for ace. Doesn’t say exact temps but July in WA is similar to Cali in may, with a good chance of Cali being hotter. Ace was otherwise stock. HKS had intake and full header back. Also the HKS tune was not conservatively tuned, where as the ACE was on a conservative tune for hot summer track days in Cali on 91octane. |
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Maybe stupid question, but how in many octanes are US fuel available? In Italy we have 95 and 100.
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In the US, octane rating is different than in most other countries. Rather than using RON for octane, we have what's known as AKI or Anti-Knock Index. AKI is just RON+MON/2 anyhow, so it's very similar. So a European 95 Octane (RON) would be a 91 AKI in the US, which is commonly sold in many states as Premium. Some states in the US have 93 AKI as premium which is equivalent to a 97 Octane (RON). Your 100 Octane would be like 96 AKI, however I've never seen 96 offered anywhere in the US. In the US every single state mandates their own requirements for gasoline, there's no specific national standard. However, it has come about that 87 AKI is typically offered everywhere as "regular", 89 AKI is typically offered everywhere as "super", and 91 or 93 AKI is typically the choice offered everywhere as "premium". Some gas stations also offer high octane fuels. Here in Texas for instance, some stations have 100 (105 RON) or 104 (110 RON) AKI fuel, such as VP Racing stations around the San Antonio area where I live. Last edited by Tristor; 09-21-2018 at 01:32 PM. |
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I have ran a invidia el from 1500mi to 22,000 on a oft no problems. Now boosted with a hks v3 s/c with 26000mi no problem. No check engine lights. The only thing I have had wrong was where the pipe y to 2 pipes it cracked but that’s probably due to just hard driving and weight of the exhaust I welded a brace from the collector to the bracket that bolts to the block.
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I have no numbers, just few years of experience. I've been running a Tomei El since Mai 2014. it been paired with Tomei overpipe, frontpipe, 60R catback and OFT. The car had quite some track time too (lots of drift session, drag and a bit of lapping). I daily drive the car during for two winters and on bumpy streets (Quebec and Winnipeg, Canada). Verdict after 4 years of abuse: No exhaust leak or cracks. I am impress by the quality of the product and I m not at my first headers with my cars. HKS is surely a top brand too but I had one on my Rb26 and I needed to re weld it after 2 years of only street use. The only thing I would say is that if you plan to go FI in the future, they will restrain you a little bit (I might sell mine next spring to for a larger one hehe).
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Is your Tomei EL thermal wrapped or ceramic coated? |
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