08-05-2022, 08:18 PM | #365 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,884
Thanks: 5,668
Thanked 5,806 Times in 3,300 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
That’s what I’m wondering. You want the AWD to go in the snow or off-roading?
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
|
08-05-2022, 09:00 PM | #366 |
Airborne at your service
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow
Location: El Paso, Texas
Posts: 6,335
Thanks: 4,536
Thanked 5,600 Times in 2,936 Posts
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
lol is that a real question or are you trying to be funny? I ask cuz I know you have a "different" sense of humor. Or do you ask STI or Golf R owners the same thing when they could get the FWD equivalent?
__________________
|
08-05-2022, 10:41 PM | #367 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,286 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2497 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
|
It is not a bloody Honda. Isn’t that reason enough?
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Tcoat For This Useful Post: |
08-05-2022, 11:35 PM | #368 | |
Mebmer
Join Date: Nov 2021
Drives: Sienna, GR86, FL5
Location: PA
Posts: 627
Thanks: 397
Thanked 461 Times in 286 Posts
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Patience will get some diligent people GRC’s at MSRP. It could easily be a $10,000 cheaper car for many. Patience will get you a 2-3 yr old used FL5 for a price equal to or grater than original MSRP. I expect the GRC will be more satisfying to hoon but CTR will be a nicer all around fun DD. I’m struggling to justify it as a $45k car though. |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to fredzy For This Useful Post: | Irace86.2.0 (08-06-2022) |
08-06-2022, 01:11 AM | #369 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Drives: GR Corolla
Location: Lathrop, CA
Posts: 4,934
Thanks: 3,089
Thanked 3,021 Times in 1,862 Posts
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
AWD might be better for year round daily driving at those power/torque range compared to FWD, especially if both are on summer tires year round (provided it doesn't snow in your area).
Also, even though the CTR has more cargo space than the GRC, the stupid sedan/coupe slope to it basically makes it less useful as a hatchback compared to the GRC, which has a more traditional hatchback rear. Kinda like those stupid SUV coupe things. |
08-06-2022, 01:14 AM | #370 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Drives: GR Corolla
Location: Lathrop, CA
Posts: 4,934
Thanks: 3,089
Thanked 3,021 Times in 1,862 Posts
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
I would think the GRC would be the "hooning" and more fun DD car, whereas the CTR would be a more track dominating car that can be a fun DD.
|
08-06-2022, 06:01 AM | #371 |
Mebmer
Join Date: Nov 2021
Drives: Sienna, GR86, FL5
Location: PA
Posts: 627
Thanks: 397
Thanked 461 Times in 286 Posts
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
I guess it comes down to the flavor you prefer for the day. FWD is definitely a little more of an acquired taste when you’re pushing at the limit (though I hear type R makes it most palatable.) This is something I rarely do in daily driving, hence my check there. The Corolla… I just can’t bring myself to love it as a place to be. I checked out the nightshade hatchback and it’s fine but really don’t see myself living with that car. Small all over. Civic has the dumb slope hatch like you say but that thing is massive inside comparatively.
|
08-06-2022, 08:56 AM | #372 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,286 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2497 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Tcoat For This Useful Post: | Irace86.2.0 (08-06-2022) |
08-06-2022, 08:59 AM | #373 |
Airborne at your service
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow
Location: El Paso, Texas
Posts: 6,335
Thanks: 4,536
Thanked 5,600 Times in 2,936 Posts
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
I'll take the GR Corolla over the CTR base off the AWD, proper hatchback design, and that bad ass little turbo 3. Otherwise, if I want a car I might actually be able to afford and or find, I'd get the CTR (sadly).
__________________
|
08-06-2022, 09:38 AM | #374 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2020
Drives: 2018 BRZ
Location: Dayton, OH
Posts: 930
Thanks: 1,389
Thanked 784 Times in 446 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
I don't really get the hype for the GR Corolla (nor for the GR Yaris, for that matter), but if you want an AWD "super-hatch" why not a Golf R? The latest gen even has a much improved rear diff setup that is reviewed very favorably. And if you don't need top power, what's wrong with a WRX?
The discussion here makes it sound as if the Civic Type R is the only competition, but there are plenty other good (i.e. fun) FWD and AWD offerings. |
The Following User Says Thank You to Ohio Enthusiast For This Useful Post: | Irace86.2.0 (08-06-2022) |
08-06-2022, 09:51 AM | #375 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Drives: GR Corolla
Location: Lathrop, CA
Posts: 4,934
Thanks: 3,089
Thanked 3,021 Times in 1,862 Posts
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
The small size of the GRC is something I actually like. lol |
|
08-06-2022, 09:54 AM | #376 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Drives: GR Corolla
Location: Lathrop, CA
Posts: 4,934
Thanks: 3,089
Thanked 3,021 Times in 1,862 Posts
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
The WRX isn't a hatch, so can't really compare it here. |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Kaotic Lazagna For This Useful Post: | Ohio Enthusiast (08-06-2022) |
08-06-2022, 10:18 AM | #377 | |
Airborne at your service
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow
Location: El Paso, Texas
Posts: 6,335
Thanks: 4,536
Thanked 5,600 Times in 2,936 Posts
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|
08-06-2022, 12:02 PM | #378 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,884
Thanks: 5,668
Thanked 5,806 Times in 3,300 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Well, the WRX is AWD, so I would ask why someone would want the STI over the standard WRX. I would ask the same for the GTI vs R too, especially versus the alternative of buying and modifying/tuning a GTI at the same price of buying a marked-up R, so totally, I would ask. There are motor differences between the GTI’s 2.0T versus the R, so I’d know that going into things. Same with the STI, but I don’t know if I think the EJ is an advantage.
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Irace86.2.0 For This Useful Post: | weederr33 (08-07-2022) |
|
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
World Premiere of All-New Toyota GR 86 (Europe) | gymratter | GR86 General Topics (2nd Gen 2022+ Toyota 86) | 104 | 09-19-2022 07:33 PM |
2019 Toyota Corolla Hatchback & Sedan | spike021 | Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions | 399 | 03-28-2022 09:32 AM |
2022 GR86 Premium Results @ Car and Driver Lightning Lap 2022 Competition | Hachiroku | GR86 General Topics (2nd Gen 2022+ Toyota 86) | 13 | 02-12-2022 11:44 PM |
The new Volkswagen ID.4 – World premiere of the fully electrically driven SUV | vh_supra26 | Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions | 5 | 09-27-2020 02:40 AM |
STI NBR CHALLENGE 2014 World Premiere Movie | JPxM0Dz | Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions | 0 | 02-03-2014 05:04 PM |