AVO turbo kit for BRZ - initial build thread - Page 215 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

aaguirre123 · 06-22-2014, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzippy

Same boat here. Woe is me...
2k miles since I last looked under the car (3k total AVO miles) and today, while installing my shiny new perrin over pipe, I see little soot marks on both heads... and a gnarly coolant leak from a banjo bolt. I thought was the lucky one.

Just going to let it ride for a while. Can't hear it yet.

(I'll post the same pictures again...

)

Did you use the recommended gasket?

onzippy · 06-22-2014, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaguirre123

Did you use the recommended gasket?

Used the gaskets included in the avo kit.

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aaguirre123 · 06-27-2014, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DD_FT86

Thank you. One unanswered question: What advantage does the billet turbo have over the non-billet?

Billet spools faster because its lighter. More hp at top rpm because it draws more air in.

tshrey · 07-01-2014, 09:56 AM

I have a question about this kit, apologize if it is already answered as I'm only up to page 100...

What does this system do about the PCV in the car? Does it include a boost-sensitive valve from a factory turbocharged car and then route the pressure into the inlet pipe of the turbo?

I don't even have my BRZ yet but I'm already looking

qtwre · 07-02-2014, 03:19 PM

The kit doesn't do anything about the PCV unless you buy their catch can kit. I don't know where their replacement in that kit comes from though.

AVOturboworld · 07-10-2014, 09:44 PM

World Time Attack Japan at Fuji Speedway. Round 1 of the Motor Games Time Attack Series.

AVO Japan was recently invited to participate in Round 1 of the Motor Games Time Attack Series, part of the World Time Attack Japan. This was a good opportunity to show the amazing track capability of the AVO turbocharger kit, so everybody put their heads together and burnt the midnight oil preparing the BRZ for the circuit.

Because Fuji Speedway is such a fast circuit, a new roll cage was welded in. Having a shunt at 150mph can be quite catastrophic to both car and driver! Several years ago, Fuji Speedway was redesigned for Formula One, which lead to much higher speeds around the circuit. It is quite safe in a relative sense, but the AVO BRZ is still a street car. In fact, we were driving it to and from the track! The only thing that gives it away is the AVO racing front lip spoiler and rear wing. Both of which have improved handling at the circuit tremendously. We put the 3.7 rear end in because it is such a high speed track.

The AVO Crew

Knowing the demands of Fuji Speedway, tuning for more power was also a priority. With the new billet turbo fitted and the new high-flow air intake system we've designed, it was tuned for 440hp on race gas at .9 bar of boost, with 50kg/m of torque. To get that power down to the ground was our new Yokohama 050 tyres (245 width front/265 width rear), a very high performance road legal tyre.

The New AVO air intake system

We drove the car in late Friday night and got ready for Saturday testing. Saturday went well, despite all the rain, and we got the data we needed before the big Sunday run. The car was performing well, cornering performance was good, and the engine was very strong, allowing us to hit 250km/h on the main straight (156mph) in 5th gear. Happy with the performance, Ross and the crew settled in for a good sleep.

Sunday started off much better, with dry weather and a semi-dry track. While there was still some wet patches here and there, overall it was quite good and Ross was able to pull off some good lap times. That doesn't mean there were not some minor issues. Thanks to the AVO aero bits and suspension setup, maximum G's in the corners was just under 3 G. Ross found that when coming out of a hard left and corner into a right hand sweeper, if you are pulling near 3 G, even with fuel tank foam in the tank and 35-40 liters of fuel (60 liter tank), we were still getting fuel surge. Looking at the log, the long black line is the gear change, and the smaller black line after that (just above the blue dot that is the car) is the fuel surge we experienced. A minor issue, but something we will work on in the future.

Even with the heat of the day, the engine put out a solid performance at all times with the AVO radiator and oil cooler fitted, and we had no issues with overheating. It just shows how efficient our turbo system is with a few key cooling upgrades for heavy duty track use. EGT's were well within safety margins (under 750 degree C), and power overall was just brilliant. The maximum water temperature was reached at the end of the short technical section, which was 98 degrees C, and by the time it reached the end of the short straight after that it was back down to 90 degree C. Oil temperatures never got above 95 degrees C.

Ross put down a best run of 1 minute 57.9 seconds, a blistering performance at the track that had him ahead of the Ferrari F40, and just .2 of a second behind the McLaren F1. Unfortunately, that was not quite enough to go on, as we least to the 1000hp GT-R's on full race slicks. But at the end of the day, we could drive the car home, still enjoying that brilliantly performing car. Even if we did get stuck in 19km long traffic…

[ame]http://youtu.be/p4Zc0h6uXAg[/ame]

s2d4 · 07-10-2014, 11:20 PM

Damn, nobu is a beast

aaronsadventures · 07-11-2014, 06:53 PM

Damn AVO, that result is fantastic! Well done!!
The power your getting out of this 2 litre is blowing my mind.
I'll be getting your Stage 3 kit shortly. Can you explain the advantage of using your fuel pump and injectors?
What kind of safe power do you recommend with this kit fitted with an oil cooler on stock internals?
Will your new air filter/box be available for purchase?
And finally, do you have a full spec list of mods you've made to this car?
Thanks in advance from an excited customer to be!

DesertFrs · 07-11-2014, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaronsadventures

Damn AVO, that result is fantastic! Well done!!
The power your getting out of this 2 litre is blowing my mind.
I'll be getting your Stage 3 kit shortly. Can you explain the advantage of using your fuel pump and injectors?
What kind of safe power do you recommend with this kit fitted with an oil cooler on stock internals?
Will your new air filter/box be available for purchase?
And finally, do you have a full spec list of mods you've made to this car?
Thanks in advance from an excited customer to be!

Hi Aaron,

To answer your question as a consumer point of view regarding your questions.

Using the Stage 3 kit with the billet wheel you will be making more power at the top end as it draws more air in. The advantages of fuel pump and injectors will allow you to add more fuel beyond of the limitation of the stock parts and will allow you to add more psi. With stock injectors and fuel pump you are limiting your self to about 11 psi on pump gas, so upgrading it will allow you for more.

From experience with this kit and no oil cooler im daily driving my car with 13 psi and mostly on 16psi on E85 on stock Internals. If E85 is not available I stick to 12psi max on shitty 91 Octane. Car has 20k miles and 17k miles on the turbo.

Regards,
Jose

aaronsadventures · 07-12-2014, 01:26 PM

Hi Jose,

Thanks for your reply.

By "Can you explain the advantage of using your fuel pump and injectors?" I meant the AVO fuel pump and injectors compared to other brands.

I see that the AVO injectors have been modified with longer injector outlets and the fuel pump has been tailored to our specific car. I would like to know why this is of benefit as I see many other people (including yourself) running other brands of injectors and fuel pumps with this kit.

I highly respect AVO and their work so I am sure they have done this for a reason, but that reason I just cannot understand. I know the modified injectors inject more efficiently with our direct injection engines, but other people aren't using these injectors and those setups still seem to be performing well. It's the same story with the fuel pump. Other brands suffice, but what is the advantage of using the modified AVO fuel pump (besides ease of installation)?

I hope this helps to clarify my question.

Cheers

AVOturboworld · 08-29-2014, 08:04 PM

A sneak peek of the oil cooler kit:

This will be released in the next few weeks.

AVOturboworld · 09-08-2014, 03:07 PM

The AVO oil cooler kit for the Subaru BRZ, Scion FR-S, and Toyota GT86 is a highly engineered solution to your cooling needs. Designed for maximum efficiency and reliability, it's been tested thoroughly at the track in the toughest of conditions. Careful thought and engineering went into not just the oil cooler itself, but the placement of it to maximize the cooling efficiency. An air duct is included that routes the air from the front grill opening to ensure air flow at speed. The duct is designed to work with the AVO turbocharger kit piping as well!

We use a thermostatic plate designed to activate at 85~90 degrees Celcius (185° F ~ 190° F), this is to ensure proper oil temperatures during winter conditions. Once installed at the track, we saw constant oil temperatures exactly matching the water temperature even with extensive lapping.

Oil cooler details:

1. Thermostatically controlled to activate at 85~90 degrees Celcius (185° F ~ 190° F).

2. AN -10 Braided Steel Lines with a swivel incorporated into the fittings for ease of install.

3. Oil cooler size. H 125mm x L 290mm x W 50mm

4. 16 Row Cooling Unit

5. Steel mounting brackets with rubber vibration isolator.

6. Will fit with AVO turbo kits and N/A cars.

7. Air duct will fit with the standard bumpers on the BRZ, FR-S, and GT86.

8. Comes with all necessary hardware.

9. Will fit with OEM foglights.

AVOturboworld · 09-16-2014, 06:12 PM

I just got some initial units in to the office here in Seattle! I've fitted up one kit to our own personal car. Here is some of the photos off the AVO USA car:

It's not actually that bad to install, it went even smoother than I anticipated. It would help to do this when installing a turbo kit, as it would help to have the intercooler out of the way during the install. Just removing the piping on that side will do it though. It'd be a snap to install on an N/A car.

AVOturboworld · 10-27-2014, 03:52 PM

Ross at AVO Japan was a practice at Okayama Circuit in Japan to keep improving the turbocharged BRZ in anticipation of upcoming race events. He sent over some pics of the circuit.

It went quite well, and the new AVO oil cooler has been helping keep temperatures low, especially in light of the 400+ whp Ross is making! He is testing a new, larger turbo for power and response.

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AVOturboworld Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 "AVO Orange" FR-S Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 69 Thanked 2,277 Times in 636 Posts Mentioned: 108 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	World Time Attack Japan at Fuji Speedway. Round 1 of the Motor Games Time Attack Series. AVO Japan was recently invited to participate in Round 1 of the Motor Games Time Attack Series, part of the World Time Attack Japan. This was a good opportunity to show the amazing track capability of the AVO turbocharger kit, so everybody put their heads together and burnt the midnight oil preparing the BRZ for the circuit. Because Fuji Speedway is such a fast circuit, a new roll cage was welded in. Having a shunt at 150mph can be quite catastrophic to both car and driver! Several years ago, Fuji Speedway was redesigned for Formula One, which lead to much higher speeds around the circuit. It is quite safe in a relative sense, but the AVO BRZ is still a street car. In fact, we were driving it to and from the track! The only thing that gives it away is the AVO racing front lip spoiler and rear wing. Both of which have improved handling at the circuit tremendously. We put the 3.7 rear end in because it is such a high speed track. The AVO Crew Knowing the demands of Fuji Speedway, tuning for more power was also a priority. With the new billet turbo fitted and the new high-flow air intake system we've designed, it was tuned for 440hp on race gas at .9 bar of boost, with 50kg/m of torque. To get that power down to the ground was our new Yokohama 050 tyres (245 width front/265 width rear), a very high performance road legal tyre. The New AVO air intake system We drove the car in late Friday night and got ready for Saturday testing. Saturday went well, despite all the rain, and we got the data we needed before the big Sunday run. The car was performing well, cornering performance was good, and the engine was very strong, allowing us to hit 250km/h on the main straight (156mph) in 5th gear. Happy with the performance, Ross and the crew settled in for a good sleep. Sunday started off much better, with dry weather and a semi-dry track. While there was still some wet patches here and there, overall it was quite good and Ross was able to pull off some good lap times. That doesn't mean there were not some minor issues. Thanks to the AVO aero bits and suspension setup, maximum G's in the corners was just under 3 G. Ross found that when coming out of a hard left and corner into a right hand sweeper, if you are pulling near 3 G, even with fuel tank foam in the tank and 35-40 liters of fuel (60 liter tank), we were still getting fuel surge. Looking at the log, the long black line is the gear change, and the smaller black line after that (just above the blue dot that is the car) is the fuel surge we experienced. A minor issue, but something we will work on in the future. Even with the heat of the day, the engine put out a solid performance at all times with the AVO radiator and oil cooler fitted, and we had no issues with overheating. It just shows how efficient our turbo system is with a few key cooling upgrades for heavy duty track use. EGT's were well within safety margins (under 750 degree C), and power overall was just brilliant. The maximum water temperature was reached at the end of the short technical section, which was 98 degrees C, and by the time it reached the end of the short straight after that it was back down to 90 degree C. Oil temperatures never got above 95 degrees C. Ross put down a best run of 1 minute 57.9 seconds, a blistering performance at the track that had him ahead of the Ferrari F40, and just .2 of a second behind the McLaren F1. Unfortunately, that was not quite enough to go on, as we least to the 1000hp GT-R's on full race slicks. But at the end of the day, we could drive the car home, still enjoying that brilliantly performing car. Even if we did get stuck in 19km long traffic… [ame]http://youtu.be/p4Zc0h6uXAg[/ame]

07-11-2014, 06:53 PM	#3004
aaronsadventures Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2013 Toyota GT86 Manual - White Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Damn AVO, that result is fantastic! Well done!! The power your getting out of this 2 litre is blowing my mind. I'll be getting your Stage 3 kit shortly. Can you explain the advantage of using your fuel pump and injectors? What kind of safe power do you recommend with this kit fitted with an oil cooler on stock internals? Will your new air filter/box be available for purchase? And finally, do you have a full spec list of mods you've made to this car? Thanks in advance from an excited customer to be!

07-12-2014, 01:26 PM	#3006
aaronsadventures Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2013 Toyota GT86 Manual - White Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hi Jose, Thanks for your reply. By "Can you explain the advantage of using your fuel pump and injectors?" I meant the AVO fuel pump and injectors compared to other brands. I see that the AVO injectors have been modified with longer injector outlets and the fuel pump has been tailored to our specific car. I would like to know why this is of benefit as I see many other people (including yourself) running other brands of injectors and fuel pumps with this kit. I highly respect AVO and their work so I am sure they have done this for a reason, but that reason I just cannot understand. I know the modified injectors inject more efficiently with our direct injection engines, but other people aren't using these injectors and those setups still seem to be performing well. It's the same story with the fuel pump. Other brands suffice, but what is the advantage of using the modified AVO fuel pump (besides ease of installation)? I hope this helps to clarify my question. Cheers

08-29-2014, 08:04 PM	#3007
AVOturboworld Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 "AVO Orange" FR-S Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 69 Thanked 2,277 Times in 636 Posts Mentioned: 108 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	A sneak peek of the oil cooler kit: This will be released in the next few weeks.

09-08-2014, 03:07 PM	#3008
AVOturboworld Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 "AVO Orange" FR-S Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 69 Thanked 2,277 Times in 636 Posts Mentioned: 108 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	The AVO oil cooler kit for the Subaru BRZ, Scion FR-S, and Toyota GT86 is a highly engineered solution to your cooling needs. Designed for maximum efficiency and reliability, it's been tested thoroughly at the track in the toughest of conditions. Careful thought and engineering went into not just the oil cooler itself, but the placement of it to maximize the cooling efficiency. An air duct is included that routes the air from the front grill opening to ensure air flow at speed. The duct is designed to work with the AVO turbocharger kit piping as well! We use a thermostatic plate designed to activate at 85~90 degrees Celcius (185° F ~ 190° F), this is to ensure proper oil temperatures during winter conditions. Once installed at the track, we saw constant oil temperatures exactly matching the water temperature even with extensive lapping. Oil cooler details: 1. Thermostatically controlled to activate at 85~90 degrees Celcius (185° F ~ 190° F). 2. AN -10 Braided Steel Lines with a swivel incorporated into the fittings for ease of install. 3. Oil cooler size. H 125mm x L 290mm x W 50mm 4. 16 Row Cooling Unit 5. Steel mounting brackets with rubber vibration isolator. 6. Will fit with AVO turbo kits and N/A cars. 7. Air duct will fit with the standard bumpers on the BRZ, FR-S, and GT86. 8. Comes with all necessary hardware. 9. Will fit with OEM foglights.

09-16-2014, 06:12 PM	#3009
AVOturboworld Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 "AVO Orange" FR-S Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 69 Thanked 2,277 Times in 636 Posts Mentioned: 108 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I just got some initial units in to the office here in Seattle! I've fitted up one kit to our own personal car. Here is some of the photos off the AVO USA car: It's not actually that bad to install, it went even smoother than I anticipated. It would help to do this when installing a turbo kit, as it would help to have the intercooler out of the way during the install. Just removing the piping on that side will do it though. It'd be a snap to install on an N/A car.

10-27-2014, 03:52 PM	#3010
AVOturboworld Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 "AVO Orange" FR-S Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 69 Thanked 2,277 Times in 636 Posts Mentioned: 108 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Ross at AVO Japan was a practice at Okayama Circuit in Japan to keep improving the turbocharged BRZ in anticipation of upcoming race events. He sent over some pics of the circuit. It went quite well, and the new AVO oil cooler has been helping keep temperatures low, especially in light of the 400+ whp Ross is making! He is testing a new, larger turbo for power and response.

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