Vacci-Nation [CLOSED DUE TO DISRESPECTFUL, INSULTING, POLITICAL POSTS

[Atmo]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Yeah, you are going to have to provide a source on that claim.

Like I said, "apparently", but here's one of many similar opinions written by scientists who studied the virus and the CDC Director now agrees that it has legs.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dy-claims.html

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Atmo

Like I said, "apparently", but here's one of many similar opinions written by scientists who studied the virus and the CDC Director now agrees that it has legs.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dy-claims.html

Prima Facie (as used in the article):
Adj. - based on the first impression; accepted as correct until proved otherwise.

Not really the type of evidence you want to draw conclusions from and make accusations with.

Recommend reviewing this article (below) for some context into the matter. Most of the evidence presented in claims that it is an engineered virus and coverup is not unique to this particular case.
So while there is no proof it was not engineered at this time (can you ever really prove something did not happen?), It seems like any "suspicious" elements are actually common to this type of thing.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01529-3

[Atmo]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Prima Facie (as used in the article):
Adj. - based on the first impression; accepted as correct until proved otherwise.

Not really the type of evidence you want to draw conclusions from and make accusations with.

Given that 18 scientists who were previously in denial about the possibility of COVID-19 being lab engineered have flipped and now call for an investigation with a letter published in Science, it seems like enough evidence to trigger an honest inquiry that even WHO agreed to.

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1

Now we're on the same page.

[Ultramaroon]

If it looks like shit, smells like shit...

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Atmo

Given that 18 scientists who were previously in denial about the possibility of COVID-19 being lab engineered have flipped and now call for an investigation with a letter published in Science, it seems like enough evidence to trigger an honest inquiry that even WHO agreed to.

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1

Now we're on the same page.

You mischaracterize the sentiments of the scientists in that article. I see no mention of them being in denial of anything, nor of them changing their minds about something. All the article mentions is that they believe the lab leak possibility was not given enough attention in the report compared to the 3 other investigations that were conducted. It was investigated, but the objection is that equal effort was not spent on all 4 investigation paths. Whether that is a reasonable objection or not, I leave up to people who can actually do something about the matter as I have my own 600+ page documents to analyze during the day. I recommend you take some time to read the report from WHO to get a better understanding of this matter and the objection. I would be interested to hear what you learn from it.

https://www.who.int/publications/i/i...v-2-china-part

[Lantanafrs2]

It would be irresponsible to not weaponize a perfectly good virus. Unscientific too.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by spike021

I don't see the route for penalties per se.

However, like I've suggested in either this thread or one of the countless ones that preceded it, we should observe in the same way that smoking is.

Basically segregate people out from those who don't want second-hand smoke. Don't allow smoking in certain areas. Etc. I believe there can be some citations given if people are found to be smoking in a non-smoking area and obviously private businesses can just kick people doing so out.

That's the right approach to take.

But just like there are smokers who refuse to respect other people's boundaries and wishes, the same will be for people who refuse to vaccinate and then go out and about.

Holier than thou assholes can be an issue as well

[cjd]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

No idea how you would prove or disprove someone did what you are saying, that's a very big can of worms.

Well, yeah. I didn't say it would be practical. Wishful thinking?

On the other hand think of the new market for lawyers!

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by spike021

I don't see the route for penalties per se.

However, like I've suggested in either this thread or one of the countless ones that preceded it, we should observe in the same way that smoking is.

Basically segregate people out from those who don't want second-hand smoke. Don't allow smoking in certain areas. Etc. I believe there can be some citations given if people are found to be smoking in a non-smoking area and obviously private businesses can just kick people doing so out.

That's the right approach to take.

But just like there are smokers who refuse to respect other people's boundaries and wishes, the same will be for people who refuse to vaccinate and then go out and about.

but then of course, when the wind blows wrong, everything starts swinging the opposite way all of a sudden.
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/17/10075...nsgender-woman

[JD001]

Today drop-in clinics open for people under the age of 30. The jabs going pretty well here in the UK.

[Lantanafrs2]

For gods sake. Just bake it a cake

[JD001]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

For gods sake. Just bake it a cake

Now that's an idea, food inducements...

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by soundman98

but then of course, when the wind blows wrong, everything starts swinging the opposite way all of a sudden.
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/17/10075...nsgender-woman

To be fair, if someone said they refused to bake a cake for a black person because they are black the result would be the same. That's just how the law is written, and gender identity is a protected class (amended to sex and sexual orientation).

It seems the wedding cake was an exception because he didn't make it due to his religious opposition to the event, not directly to characteristics of the people.

But all that is OTAF lol.

[wbradley]

Lucky guy, gets international exposure for refusing to provide a cake to a transgender. His 5 minutes of infamy.

Well, we are here to discuss trannys and if they can handle the power. Apparently on a number of builds they couldn't, which of course leads to the cliche line, "Oh no, I blew a tranny!"

Some people did it multiple times. lol