FT-86 offered AUTOMATIC only?

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go to the white search box on top of page /enter concept cars and it pops up

[-TokenSX-]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

Don't want no stinking Paddle shifters even if they shift faster than a human can, and don't want a Autotragic either. Pure hardcore gear shift only for me.

Hahaha i 100% agree with RhythmOfSmoke!!

[matadormi5]

I'm all for a good paddle-shift option. This car is going to have a stick as standard, it's pretty much obvious.

But I really hope that they offer a decent auto-box.(please no CVT though)

Automatics have come a long way, some are even surpassing manuals in outright speed. Sure, autos are easier and i guess "less-hardcore" but that's not a negative. Power-steering? race set-up traction controls? Electronic selectable center diffs?

All of these make driving easier and the faster. The only one that gets so much hate is the automatic transmission.

[enc0re]

I'm sure they'll offer an auto of some kind. If it's good enough, I may even go for it.

[matadormi5]

Originally Posted by enc0re

I'm sure they'll offer an auto of some kind. If it's good enough, I may even go for it.

If the Subaru has AWD and a good auto, that'll be my next set of wheels.

Auto-trans because 90% of my commute is stop and go traffic and this has to be a daily driver. One needs to relax when they drive in the city, not row a boat and do ballet (sorry purist)

AWD because we are suppose to get more than a foot of snow here in Chicago and it just got me thinking...RWD would be a bitch right now.

[Dimman]

Automatics add extra (unnecessary!) weight and suck up a lot more power. As well as disconnect a degree of control from the driver.

Fail.

If you can't drive a stick you shouldn't be behind the wheel of a responsive, dynamic sports car. If you don't want a stick and the interactive driving experience that comes with it, why do you want this car? Go buy a Solara or a (stock, cosmetically modified) tC.

[70NYD]

Why is this thread still open? This is waste of space and some of the comments on here come as a waste of air required to power the brain to type such gibberish..
I drive 90% of my time in congestion. I have never owned a auto.. Learn to use the clutch or go and look for a non sports car..
And also if there is a auto option CVT should be it

[DrunkenMime]

Originally Posted by dalli

Is it me or what?

I go to Toyota USA site, im not even sure if im on the right one but there is no mention of the FT 86.

what the hell?

probably because of the rumors of the FT being a Scion...have you checked the Scion website?

[matadormi5]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Automatics add extra (unnecessary!) weight and suck up a lot more power. As well as disconnect a degree of control from the driver.

Fail.

If you can't drive a stick you shouldn't be behind the wheel of a responsive, dynamic sports car. If you don't want a stick and the interactive driving experience that comes with it, why do you want this car? Go buy a Solara or a (stock, cosmetically modified) tC.

Originally Posted by 70NYD

Why is this thread still open? This is waste of space and some of the comments on here come as a waste of air required to power the brain to type such gibberish..
I drive 90% of my time in congestion. I have never owned a auto.. Learn to use the clutch or go and look for a non sports car..
And also if there is a auto option CVT should be it

The appeal of the FT-86 is a cheap, fun, sporty little car. Given that most RWD sporty cars require at least $30k-40k, this car is suppose to be the everyday hero, like a VW GTI or other hot-hatch. There are no entry level RWD sports coupes besides the Hyundai Genesis.

With a properly matched autobox, the fun factor of this car can remain relatively intact. The DSG option on the VW doesn't kill the fun as say a green-CVT would or some ancient 4-speed auto.

It's a matter of taste and opinion here. To set the record straight, I'd 100% get a manual if I could afford a 2nd car for purely recreational purposes.

[70NYD]

So you can't drive manual in traffic? Do you have a bung knee/hip/ankle or are you just a fat lazy prick who prefers auto over manual cus it's easier??

[matadormi5]

Originally Posted by 70NYD

So you can't drive manual in traffic? Do you have a bung knee/hip/ankle or are you just a fat lazy prick who prefers auto over manual cus it's easier??

Would you prefer mechanical unassisted steering because having power steering makes it easier to turn the wheel?

ABS? various traction controls? How about carbon ceramic brakes, you want to pass on those because they makes stopping easier and more effective?

limited slip difs, fancy suspension set-ups, engine management computers etc etc. all make driving faster easier.

A good performance autobox (like DSG, PDK, SST) has better performance without any of the drawbacks. Why wouldn't one want that besides it's less connected to the driver. It's a matter of choice.

If you like driving manual more then good for you. Nothing wrong with that.

[70NYD]

I prefer having no power options to begin with... I don't like abs or traction control or dynamic stability control.. Not on a track/fun/sports car. Carbon ceramic brakes and "fancy suspension setups" (I'm gonna assume u are referring to multylink) don't take away from the feel at all... Those are upgrades to outdated components.. Power steering is great for shopping centers but that's about it.. And these are all my opinions.. What I was saying before is why have this car as a every day commuter and a fun car if it's auto.. I'd rather have more work in traffic and awesome fun on weekends than boring all the time
And this is all going further and further from the OT
I have nothing against ppl wanting auto.. This thread was referring to ONLY having auto

[zigzagz94]

Originally Posted by matadormi5

A good performance autobox (like DSG, PDK, SST) has better performance without any of the drawbacks. Why wouldn't one want that besides it's less connected to the driver. It's a matter of choice.

Granted the new dual clutch automated manuals are faster shifting than any human and from a strictly performance stand point the DCT's will be faster than a traditional three pedal manual.

BUT...this car was advertised to be a back to basics driver oriented RWD performance car, and as such, us enthusiasts want to be as connected to the car as possible. That's why we want our manual transmissions.

No need for all the hate in this thread. Subyota isn't stupid, they know there will be tons of customers who will buy this car for other reasons than hardcore drivers focussed performance and there will be some type of automatic for you guys. I doubt it will be a DCT though as Subaru doesn't have one in the line up yet and it would raise the price on the car too high.

[matadormi5]

Originally Posted by 70NYD

I'd rather have more work in traffic and awesome fun on weekends than boring all the time

That's a very good philosophy but I just can't apply it to me. The only real track day experience available to me is hours away and requires membership. Autocross is something I'd love to do but that's only during the summer seasons. A nice auto with a "manual mode" will suffice for me.

I get what you're saying though. When I am financially fit to have two cars, the fun car I take to the track will 100% be stick.

Back to the OT subject. If the FT86 comes with ONLY auto, it's going to cause global riot.