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Old 08-27-2014, 02:29 PM   #15
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I... wat.

I felt mad at the salesman.
Then you said he warned you about breaking in a new car.
Then I wasn't mad.
But then I was because burning out a car that isn't yours?
But then... enthusiast showing you the world of hooning.

I'm moist, but idk if it's good or bad.
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Old 08-27-2014, 02:40 PM   #16
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I'm moist, but idk if it's good or bad.
Just made my day
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Old 08-27-2014, 02:50 PM   #17
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Ya may have had different responses if the OP had been clear it was a used car to start with.
If they are selling it a Certified used car they will have to replace tires if they are badly worn. If "as is" the buyer takes their chances anyway.
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Old 08-27-2014, 02:56 PM   #18
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Ya may have had different responses if the OP had been clear it was a used car to start with.
If they are selling it a Certified used car they will have to replace tires if they are badly worn. If "as is" the buyer takes their chances anyway.
New our used I wouldn't buy a car from a dealership that has sales people doing smokey burnouts and dounts with their cars.

Last thing I want to do is buy a car that I literally just watched get beat on.
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New our used I wouldn't buy a car from a dealership that has sales people doing smokey burnouts and dounts with their cars.

Last thing I want to do is buy a car that I literally just watched get beat on.
As opposed to the beating it likely took for XXXXX miles?
Would NOT want to be the guy that bought 95% of the cars on here.
Would you ask for a resume of the previous owner to see if it had always been driven by Granny (even that is no assurance)?
Just say'n (hate that term but use it anyway) buying one of these used means it probably HAS been "beat up"!
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As opposed to the beating it likely took for XXXXX miles?
Would NOT want to be the guy that bought 95% of the cars on here.
Would you ask for a resume of the previous owner to see if it had always been driven by Granny (even that is no assurance)?
Just say'n (hate that term but use it anyway) buying one of these used means it probably HAS been "beat up"!
Yes, but for one you aren't actually seeing it being done in front of your eyes and two you are just assuming it has been beat on, but you never know if it was owned by someone who babied it.

I drive my FRS hard but I take care of it and it isn't the same thing as some 20 year old kid beating on a car that he has no care for because it isn't his car.
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Take it at face value

Sounds like an awesome time for the OP! Would I buy that car after that... probably not. Was it revved hard on a cold start many times in its young life... yes. Are the tires gonna be cupped and need early replacement.. yea.

But,

Did it nearly sell the OP on a twin? Heck Yea! and if it does, then that salesman made himself a profit by beating up 1 used FRS out of 30,000+

Beating on cars is a glass half full kinda thing. Gives you instant gratification but in the long haul can be tough on the car. I agree it is sad some unknowing lady or gent may buy the car that was hooned for daysss.

Still sounds like fun and hope you join the community!
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Old 08-27-2014, 03:22 PM   #22
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Yes, but for one you aren't actually seeing it being done in front of your eyes and two you are just assuming it has been beat on, but you never know if it was owned by someone who babied it.

I drive my FRS hard but I take care of it and it isn't the same thing as some 20 year old kid beating on a car that he has no care for because it isn't his car.
I mean I'm sure it was a one-off thing. The car had likely been sitting anyways as it needed a serious wash. I think he saw a rather rare opportunity to showcase the car to someone who is genuinely interested in it for what it is. The way I see it he was just unleashing its natural potential anyways maybe at the expense of a little tread. I'd be crazy to think that with 21,000 miles that was the first time it had been pushed. I'd much rather deal with an 86 enthusiast than some joe blow dealer who can't tell me shit about the car.

BTW this was the dealership owner's car that he traded back in so as far as being taken care of you can bet it wasn't just thrashed with no care at all. (that is unless that was a total phib..he is still a DEALER at heart)
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Yes, but for one you aren't actually seeing it being done in front of your eyes and two you are just assuming it has been beat on, but you never know if it was owned by someone who babied it.

I drive my FRS hard but I take care of it and it isn't the same thing as some 20 year old kid beating on a car that he has no care for because it isn't his car.
My point EXACTLY!
You buy one of these used the odds are greatly weighted to having been driven harder then your normal car. Just because you didn't "actually see it" doesn't mean it didn't happen. A few doughnuts and drift or two in a parking lot by a driver that obviously knew what they were doing will not destroy these cars.
I know in the past I have driven some rentals (a certain Camaro comes to mind) to or even a little over their limit and somebody bought them used and were probably overjoyed to get them!!!!
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I don't respect a salesman that doesn't properly qualify a walk in, then beats on one of the dealers cars to NOT make a sale.

Loser salesman makes no money eventually gets fired.

A lot of these vehicles were sold without a test drive. I ordered mine April 2012 contingent on road test. The dealer got 1 automatic for one day a few weeks later, I lined up behind several others who were mostly just test pilots. Finalized the papers and got my vehicle 2 weeks later. Much better than hoooning with non-buyers.

People that take road tests with no intention to buy should work on 100% commission and get treated the same. Wankers.
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The OP reads like a Penthouse letter...I'm guessing...
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Old 08-27-2014, 04:03 PM   #26
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Lol

All the fuss about some spirited driving...

I track my FR-S at HPDE events and this puppy is a lease.


So someone is going to get it in 3 years and they didn't even get to enjoy the extra wear & tear...
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I honestly think more dealerships need to have a demo FRS/BRZ and capable driver for just this reason. It's really impossible to get anywhere near the limit of this car revving it under 4k and babying it.
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