IIHS Small Overlap Test - 2014 FRS

[8R6]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

What is a frontal crash prevention system?

examples: Forward Collision Warning, Front Collision Warning system

such as Subaru's Eyesight, Benz's commercial showing the car coming to a stop in the fog, etc.

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by Target70

sensor actuated auto braking, I think

Originally Posted by BRGT86

examples: Forward Collision Warning, Front Collision Warning system

such as Subaru's Eyesight, Benz's commercial showing the car coming to a stop in the fog, etc.

Originally Posted by Subaru Eyesight

Precollision warning
Precollision braking
Precollision throttle management
Lane departure warning

That sounds incredibly intrusive, and it's probably impossible to turn off. I can only imagine that going horribly wrong in a track scenario.

[Target70]

I saw an episode of top gear where it kicked in and stopped them half way into a parking space that had a row of bushes at the end.

But yeah, it's about safety, not for track. Hopefully they don't mandate the system for all cars in the future

[gramicci101]

So, say you're in the middle of a line of cars on a track. You've just apexed a hard left hander in preparation to enter the long back straight. The car is getting a bit slippy on the rear end as it pushes wider towards track-out. You're exiting the corner a hair faster than the car in front of you, when suddenly that car enters the sensor zone for your collision avoidance system.

Your car chops throttle and aggressively applies the brakes, in the middle of a sharp turn where you're on the limits of traction and using the throttle to balance the car. Your rear end locks up and whips outward faster than you can countersteer. The car behind you watches helplessly as you spin a tight 180 immediately in front of him. He lets off the throttle and tries to tuck inside of you, but to no avail. As he impacts your front corner and you careen towards the tirewall, a novice three cars back does not react in time, driving into the car in front of him. The wreckage multiplies with NASCAR-reminescient proportions as black flags begin to wave and crash response vehicles are notified.

This is why we shouldn't have nice things. Like proactive crash avoidance systems.

[Target70]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

So, say you're in the middle of a line of cars on a track. You've just apexed a hard left hander in preparation to enter the long back straight. The car is getting a bit slippy on the rear end as it pushes wider towards track-out. You're exiting the corner a hair faster than the car in front of you, when suddenly that car enters the sensor zone for your collision avoidance system.

Your car chops throttle and aggressively applies the brakes, in the middle of a sharp turn where you're on the limits of traction and using the throttle to balance the car. Your rear end locks up and whips outward faster than you can countersteer. The car behind you watches helplessly as you spin a tight 180 immediately in front of him. He lets off the throttle and tries to tuck inside of you, but to no avail. As he impacts your front corner and you careen towards the tirewall, a novice three cars back does not react in time, driving into the car in front of him. The wreckage multiplies with NASCAR reminescient proportions as black flags begin to wave and crash response vehicles are notified.

This is why we shouldn't have nice things. Like proactive crash avoidance systems.

but hey, it's great for those guys and gals who can't be bothered to watch the road while eating/texting/playing with the raido/youtubing/etc.. or at least it will be good for them untill it coaxes them into an attitude of indeference due to "well the car will take care of it", thus causing even more distracted driving. And this is where our good overlap crash test results come back in to the topic.

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by Target70

at least it will be good for them untill it coaxes them into an attitude of indeference due to "well the car will take care of it", thus causing even more distracted driving.

That's exactly what the result will be. "I don't need to focus on this, the car will take care of it. OMG, I just got a text from my BFF Jill!"

[8R6]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

That sounds incredibly intrusive, and it's probably impossible to turn off. I can only imagine that going horribly wrong in a track scenario.

it totally is. and we can all thank the fucktards on the road today that "drive" while doing everything but driving.

[sastexan]

Why does IIHS denote that this test only applies to cars "built after December 2013"? Was there something changed in the production? Is that when the 2014 model started production? Curious if there is something that is actually different about the vehicle or if this is just a CYA by IIHS due to some cosmetic change.

[Scaldy]

That footage of the fiat: Daaamn. Seriously, how could you buy one after seeing that.

[SubieNubie]

Originally Posted by Scaldy

That footage of the fiat: Daaamn. Seriously, how could you buy one after seeing that.

The small over lap test is relatively new. Alot of the compact, sub-compact and mini cars are getting hammered in the news for their poor ratings as of late. Which, to me, is bullshit. Considering most cars were designed prior to the test. When they started this test, I was very curious to see how the FRS/BRZ was going to do. I'm actually pretty impressed considering its size.

[Jegan_V]

Originally Posted by SubieNubie

The small over lap test is relatively new. Alot of the compact, sub-compact and mini cars are getting hammered in the news for their poor ratings as of late. Which, to me, is bullshit. Considering most cars were designed prior to the test.

The problem I have with that notion is, if the model's age indicates its failure rate then the Subaru Legacy(introduced in 2009) and Volvo S60(2010) should've also failed. They didn't, meaning both Subaru and Volvo were committed to crash safety to the degree that even given an unexpected test their designs held up. To me it seems the others have cut corners, if those automakers cared, then at the very minimum they should get the acceptable rating.

[rs999]

The one for the 2015 GTI is scary. The driver's head goes between the gap of the side curtain bag and steering wheel bag.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2apWN173D4A"]2015 Volkswagen GTI small overlap IIHS crash test - YouTube[/ame]

Maybe a third bag that deploys from the A pillar or side vent would cover this gap?

[GT/86]

Not bad at all but did you see the battery on the GTi fly away lol

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by rs999

The one for the 2015 GTI is scary. The driver's head goes between the gap of the side curtain bag and steering wheel bag.

2015 Volkswagen GTI small overlap IIHS crash test - YouTube

Maybe a third bag that deploys from the A pillar or side vent would cover this gap?

A lot of the small cars were doing that. The crash would push the steering column toward the center of the car, push the car to the left, and the driver's head would impact the corner air vent.