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Old 04-20-2014, 09:24 PM   #15
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Again, do what you want. And the Borla has had warped flange problems and has been known to create lots of rasp. But a pipe is a pipe, right?
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Dude, chill. No need to get defensive
We're just talking about exhaust pipes here, not politics. LOL

Rasp, drone etc. don't affect performance

And yes, a pipe is a pipe, thing is, there's more to a header than just the piping itself, hence my interest in the best bang for the buck header.
My mind is just about made up on what comes after it though... Just FYI.

Except, it still remains a mystery whether or not header + front pipe + cat back make a full system
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Dude, chill. No need to get defensive
We're just talking about exhaust pipes here, not politics. LOL

Rasp, drone etc. don't affect performance
I'm not getting defensive at all. But your last statement just sealed the deal for me. I will stop trying to help you because clearly you are going to do what you want and not take any advice.
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:33 PM   #18
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That combo pipe looks almost exactly like the Megan Racing front pipe.
Yes, I have already found out it's popular around here to hate on Megan, but it's a straight piece of stainless pipe with two flanges and one bend... How can that vary in performance between the two brands.
It isn't hate if it's the truth. The ebay knockoff parts are poorer in quality, have fitment issues, poor welds, or even all of the above. It's been proven time and time again across multiple platforms.
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You were faster than my edit.
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It isn't hate if it's the truth. The ebay knockoff parts are poorer in quality, have fitment issues, poor welds, or even all of the above. It's been proven time and time again across multiple platforms.
Understood, Megan's aren't rip offs though, their drift cat back is its own thing. Not a clone.
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Understood, Megan's aren't rip offs though, their drift cat back is its own thing. Not a clone.
Why are you fighting to hard for Megan? They make sub-standard parts. They're shoddy parts made in china re-branded and mass produced with poor QC. It's the same with the other brands you find on ebay. Godspeed, etc.
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Haha, I just felt the need to separate the cheap crap Megan parts from the cheap crap rip-off parts.
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I have catted ebay headers and I made 181whp on stock tune.
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THANKS!

Are you running the Manzo or the no name?
The manzo looks like a equal length Borla, the no name like an HKS maybe?

See guys, that's what I wanted - EXPERIENCE.

How was the fit? Any issues?

//Edit: Found your video, looks like you have the Manzo.
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Yes I do. Manzo headers, perrin overpipe, berk catted frontpipe and j2 catback. I want to upload the pictures that I took and the dyno sheet, but it keeps telling my pictures are 1.6 MB and all thats allowed is 600kb. How can I upload?
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If this forum is like any forum, I'd say upload it on tinypic and share the link.
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Might want to dig into ebay sellers' reviews and search for "manzo" to get a good feedback.

For full Manzo (SUS-304 Stainless Steel) you will need:
+$155
ITEM #: TP-214 (two pieces: overpipe + frontpipe)
Stainless Steel Downpipe
Piping Size : 2.25"
O2 Sensor Ports: 0

+$343
ITEM #: CBS-SF12 (3 pieces)
Catback Exhaust System
Piping Size: 2.25"
Exhaust Tips: 4.5"
or
Item #: CBS-SFR12V2 (2 pieces)
Stainless Steel Catback Exhaust System V2
Piping Size: 2.75"
O2 Sensor Ports: 0
Exhaust Tip: 4"

+$1065
As for more bang for a buck, I think OFT+OFH combo $1015 + drop in filter (like Perrin $50)

For $1,565.00 its worth to try. Might get to +208 whp w/ E85. Good luck.

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I have seen a lot of confusion between midpipes, downpipes, etc hopefully this pic from Perrin will help out. The front pipe is also called a down pipe or in my case a test pipe from Motiv.
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Great post. Thanks.

I'm definitely gonna go OFT, not sure on the OFH yet.
The Manzo just looks like to good a deal to pass up.
We'll see.

Appreciate constructive input though!
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