BMW M235i... I thrashed it on the track. *VIDEO*

[iLuveKetchup]

Close in dimensions as an E46? Damn this is a big / heavy car.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by krayzie

That's really porky considering it's not even AWD and the new Mk3 Audi TT will be below 3000lbs in weight on the new MQB platform. The TT-S would have comparable performance to this M235i? Once later in the production cycle there could be a M2 vs TT-RS.

For real. I was excited until I heard it was 3400-3500lbs. Without truly amazing chassis design, a car that heavy will always feel that heavy.

Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup

Close in dimensions as an E46? Damn this is a big / heavy car.

See? Everyone thinks it's fat.




A number of people are bringing up the 228i and turbo four engine. I'd be interested to see a comparison piece on the two, like when GRM compared the M3 and 335i on the track and autocross - after using the money saved in purchase price of the 335i to modify it, the car beat out the M3 (just barely IIRC).

[johnnie]

I love the bimmers. Test drove the euro 125i hatchback but the GT86 was much more fun.

Nice review!

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

A number of people are bringing up the 228i and turbo four engine. I'd be interested to see a comparison piece on the two, like when GRM compared the M3 and 335i on the track and autocross - after using the money saved in purchase price of the 335i to modify it, the car beat out the M3 (just barely IIRC).

The difference is that the M235i is not an M2. You can literally make the 228i the exact same car minus the 6 cylinder turbo motor and some M235i badges. The only question is whether you can make the same hp/torque with the $4000 you save getting the 4 cylinder turbo.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by reni

...and this interior:

Is that interior actually available on a 2 series in the US?

[reni]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Is that interior actually available on a 2 series in the US?

Nope

[Celica00]

Originally Posted by Rosso_Corsa

It's not as light, or as agile or quite as fun. But it's much more grown up. Not just in fit and finish and the materials and the badge, but also in the driving experience. Less NVH, more supple ride, more damping to all of the controls.

I like NVH and my 23 yr old body can handle the harshness so unfortunately that plus side seems more like an opinion and preference than anything because on the same point I can say that the FRS is better because it has more NVH.

[JS + BRZ]

Originally Posted by Celica00

I like NVH and my 23 yr old body can handle the harshness so unfortunately that plus side seems more like an opinion and preference than anything because on the same point I can say that the FRS is better because it has more NVH.

[Celica00]

Originally Posted by JS + BRZ

yes.

[Whitigir]

2015 STI spanks M3 in the ass, right in the crack, where it hurts the most!

[ZionsWrath]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

2015 STI spanks M3 in the ass, right in the crack, where it hurts the most!

It doesn't hurt that much in the crack, can't get a nice flat surface area

wait wut

[Eminent Performance]

I saw the review on youtube! It was pretty good. I like the looks of it and I want to see how the manual stacks up. Looks like a very good chassis. I want to know how it stacks up to a 1M.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

2015 STI spanks M3 in the ass, right in the crack, where it hurts the most!

This guy lives in a dream world, haha. The M3 has more power, is lighter, and isn't AWD.

[Whitigir]

What is the weight of the M3 vs 15 STI again ?