Scions Complete Lack of interest in AE86

[Jordo!]

There is almost no need for anyone at a Scion dealership to know anything about the spiritual predecessor of this or any other car.

Anyone enamored with such thoughts will know all about it when they enter the show room and no one else will give a shit.

Telling someone this car's design was inspired by the top of the line Corolla from 25+ years ago isn't a selling point to 99% of the public...

[bneale]

Originally Posted by Jordo!

There is almost no need for anyone at a Scion dealership to know anything about the spiritual predecessor of this or any other car.

Anyone enamored with such thoughts will know all about it when they enter the show room and no one else will give a shit.

Telling someone this car's design was inspired by the top of the line Corolla from 25+ years ago isn't a selling point to 99% of the public...

I disagree. I for one would much prefer to buy a car from someone who actually knows what an AE86 is or what the predecessor of this car actually is.

To put it simply, If I had to pick between 2 people, I would always pick the guy who knows about the AE86. Who wouldn't? Therefore it does matter to some buyers and quite frankly, more info wouldn't hurt sales only help them.

The other thing I wanted to say was this car isn't as much of a 25+ year old Corolla. I would say its more like the 2000GT from the 60's.

I dare anyone to stand there looking at a 3/4 view of both the new 86 and the 2000GT and tell me "They don't look anything a like". Because that person is crazy if they think that way. I see a lot of the 2000GT in this car. Way more so then the AE86 in terms of looks. The shapes of the fenders are dead give aways that the designer was using the 2000GT as a base.

The spiritual idea of the AE86 being a lightweight RWD car with low power is about the only thing they really have in common in their blood. The looks are not the same though so there's no way the average buyer will think Corolla. But they won't think 2000GT either. Hell, the average buyer wasn't even born when the 2000GT came out.

bneale

[Jehuty77]

Originally Posted by Jordo!

There is almost no need for anyone at a Scion dealership to know anything about the spiritual predecessor of this or any other car.

Anyone enamored with such thoughts will know all about it when they enter the show room and no one else will give a shit.

Telling someone this car's design was inspired by the top of the line Corolla from 25+ years ago isn't a selling point to 99% of the public...

Yes there is, this is a huge purchase, $25,000 + isn't exactly chump change, atleast not to me.

If a car was built with a lineage in mind, a purpose, the sales people should know.

Do they need to express it? Maybe not to some random chick who thinks the car looks "cute", BUT if the car was built to re-invigorate the brand, the sales people should be knowledgable of this and at the very least be able to regurgitate some basic informaiton for enthusists.

People who champion the "They dont need to know attitude" or "Its ok" are the people who allow this non-sense to keep happening.

[pastuch]

Originally Posted by Jordo!

There is almost no need for anyone at a Scion dealership to know anything about the spiritual predecessor of this or any other car.

Anyone enamored with such thoughts will know all about it when they enter the show room and no one else will give a shit.

Telling someone this car's design was inspired by the top of the line Corolla from 25+ years ago isn't a selling point to 99% of the public...

LOL! They don't know anything about the cars they sell, let alone what the spiritual successor was or even what their competitors offer.

[Kimsey47]

Originally Posted by pastuch

LOL! They don't know anything about the cars they sell, let alone what the spiritual successor was or even what their competitors offer.

I'd be suprised if they knew Toyota made the Scions actually...

[Droopy]

Originally Posted by Kimsey47

I'd be suprised if they knew Toyota made the Scions actually...

even though they are in the same building

[Kimsey47]

Originally Posted by Droopy

even though they are in the same building

[l8apexr]

[SCIONMONTREAL]

From a dealers perspective I can maybe help explain why :

Toyota salesmen are usually trained on about 30 products and we usually have to have a pretty detailed understanding of option groups / drivetrains / accessories.

We're also trained on a regular basis (Toyota University) on the competition's product and where our strengths and weaknesses are. We are tested AND GRADED every month on that knowledge. It's an extremely dynamic system that puts us in a constant learning curb mode.

Scion products are usually low quantity products, for about 50 Toyotas sold and delivered every month we have between 5 and 10 Scions depending on the month.

It makes it a bit difficult due to the lower volume to really put an enormous amount of time into upcoming models at times but a few of us try pretty hard. Remember we haven't been given any material yet on this car and I wouldn't be surprised if a few salesmen aren't even aware of this car yet.

Before you judge us on our lack of knowledge on this or past cars remember that most of us put a lot of effort and energy on our bread and butter cars (Corolla, Camry, RAv4). For those of us who are enthusiasts (and a few of us humor ourselves to be enthusiasts)
We only really knew the Celicas and Supras in our careers vs AE86s

So forgive us ! And if you can't we still hope it won't stop you from asking at reception for the local 'Toyota Encyclopedia' every dealership has one !

[Jehuty77]

Originally Posted by l8apexr

Already seen that buddy, "Chance Meeting" being the key words.

[l8apexr]

but at least they recognize it enough to post? this thread was called "complete lack of interest in AE86"

[Jehuty77]

I was referring to the dealerships, not the few ppl they have at head office running public relations.

[SCIONMONTREAL]

Originally Posted by Jehuty77

I was referring to the dealerships, not the few ppl they have at head office running public relations.

I am in a dealership ! My name is Borat

[FR]

holy epic fucknuts