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Old 10-16-2013, 08:57 PM   #15
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Strat- I wouldnt drive a miata but I love my FRS
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:57 PM   #16
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thanks for the advice, bro, I was expecting some mild improvements on weight reduction, just a little wide tires, and most impotently, by cutting weight on rotating mass; like the crank pulley and the driveshaft. but then I as love the design of the car, but I taught it was missing something to be perfect, so I ended up waisting too much on thing that would do nothing on my please to drive. I was not considering a turbo, or anything hardcore before, because I am not a street racer, I was when I was very young, but now, I just want to enjoy the car, so with that been said, I would be happy with 230 hp , and maybe 200 lbs of linear torque. I was never thinking on reach 300 horses on this car, and I used to believe that with the car weight and proportions, the performance would not be as bad as I do now
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:59 PM   #17
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LOL that was a good one
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I love this car, I love everything about this car but its lack of torque. This is the second BRZ of mine, and I keep looking at it with the same passion and enthusiasm I did the first time I saw it, or even earlier, when I read everything about its project, a couple of years prior to its launch.

but today I had, again, such a bad experience, been beat up by another car at the freeway, and I am not talking about any Porsche, BMW, or any american muscle car... it was actually a four cylinder japanese car, that in respect to all of us, I am not going to say the model nor the brand, but the fact is that such a thing pissed me off.

I had spent already over 4k on my new car; Sparcco wheels, 225/45 R17 , Invidia Q300 exhaust, summer tires, lightweight pulley from Raceseng, a Takeda cold air intake, a Carbon Fiber Driveshaft, and a few other cosmetic stuff, like all LED bulbs, Toms taillights, etc...

The fact is, I can consider myself a proud owner of the very first car, with a front mounted Boxer engine, and RWD, that has the center of gravity lower than a Ferrari Italia, and now looks as gorgeous as an Aston Martin sportscar, but it still freaking super extremely slow, specially while in that nimble of power that happens in between 3k to 5k revs.

So, I am now asking myself, should I expend about 6k more in this car, to solve my issue with a turbo, or should I wait for the 2015/2016 mid-life refresh, with lots of speculation going on within the industry, on how they are going to bring this extra power; if from a displacement increase, to 2.5L from 2.0; if from force induction; or even a hybrid system to boost (I personally dont like this last option)?

What do you guys think? I am the only one dealing with this dilemma? I have my mind set in one thing, I would go back to Mercedes-Benz, for sure as soon as the CLA 45 AMG hit the US dealerships, I would trade my BRZ, if until then, the car was not able to bring the pleasure I expect from it.

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I don't see the issue with one 4 cylinder japanese car beating another 4 cylinder japanese car. I also don't think the 2015 refresh will be anything major like a turbo, hybrid, or an extra .5 liters.

This car wasn't designed to go fast in a straight line. Even if you got a turbo kit, it will still be slower than other cars on the road.

Have you tried taking it to a track or autocross? I think you might be really surprised with your times on a track with corners. I was beating corvettes last time I was at an autox.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:06 PM   #20
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Ahhh yes, the young and the restless. The mantra for small displacement car owners is: "It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow." If that doesn't work for you, sell your car and buy something else.
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Only race people on the downhill, you wont need the power to keep up. Just use the brakes as sparingly as possible to maximize your overall speed.
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Only race people on the downhill, you wont need the power to keep up. Just use the brakes as sparingly as possible to maximize your overall speed.
Like a game of chicken.
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Strat- I wouldnt drive a miata but I love my FRS
You're missing out, even new Miata's make the 86 feel a tad bloated.

Care to explain why not?
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I hate to say it, but if you wanted a fast car you should have bought one to begin with. My advice? Part out all the aftermarket items you bought and sell the car. Be prepared to lose some money on resale. Buy a Mustang GT with the performance package. Anything else will feel slower and it will meet your requirements for speed. No stock 4 cylinder will beat it in a straight line.

I think spending another $6K on this car is not a good investment for you.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:30 PM   #26
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Spending money on your 4 banger isn't going to make it faster unless you put FI on it.

Ok, yes you can gain maybe 20 hp but the money is much better spent on FI where you will gain over 100.

If you are looking to race on the highway, you bought the wrong car unless you plan an engine swap (which I would encourage you to do so).
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Strat- Because they are total chic cars. This is coming from my wife who will never own one because of this either
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:36 PM   #28
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I normally don't feed trolls, and your super big blue font was painful to skim through, but if you're whining because you spent a bunch of money on mods that don't even increase hp/tq, and you want midrange tq (3k to 5k rpm's), and you don't want to shell out money on a turbocharger, then...

It sounds like an Electronic Supercharger is in your future: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39719

Or just go buy a Mustang.

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