power steering

[Grymm86]

just cut the belt off, you'll be fine. promise.

[troek]

"The electric motor assisting the BRZ’s rack is mounted high up on the firewall, contributing to a slightly higher center of gravity but simultaneously shifting the front/rear weight balance a touch rearward."

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by troek

"The electric motor assisting the BRZ’s rack is mounted high up on the firewall, contributing to a slightly higher center of gravity but simultaneously shifting the front/rear weight balance a touch rearward."

The motor weighs how much? I am suggesting a lot of that article was written from marketing release sheets.

[troek]

from what ive read, electric power steering motors are somewhat heavy. my uneducated guess would be 5-10lbs. not worth removing to me, but for weight savings, every little bit adds up.

[Anthony]

If driving without it won't damage the steering system, you can consider mine already out.

It seems to me like turning at extremely slow speeds might put too much torque on the steering rack. But if that's the only potential problem, all you have to do is make sure you've always got at least a little bit of speed before you start turning. Not good for a daily driver, but mine is not a daily driver.

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by stockysnail

'cause racecar. Lotus Elises don't have power steering so why not our lightweight cars as well?

Cause its not a lotus Elise.. And it's about 1000lbs heavier ..

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

Cause its not a lotus Elise.. And it's about 1000lbs heavier ..

Only 997lbs after you take out the power steering.

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by ender2664

I prefer not having power steering. I took it out of my crx, dart, mustang, camaro and firebird. I am well aware of what it feels like to drive a car without power steering, but thank you for the concern.
I am guessing since no one answered the question that was asked that the answer was no.

Whatever... True manual steering racks have different gear ratios to make the steering easier. Suspensions sometimes have different caster angles to compensate for manual steering as well as lack of dampening forces absorbed by the PS rack which can make steering difficult under rough road conditions.
I'm sure you can handle it though..

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

True manual steering racks have different gear ratios...

So you think deleting the power steering in our cars would result in an ugly situation?

[jonbonazza]

I personally much prefer a car with a true manual steering rack, but simply deleting the power steering, while maintaing a power rack will result in less than optimal steering. I have driven in cars with both setups and there really is a HUGE difference.

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by Anthony

So you think deleting the power steering in our cars would result in an ugly situation?

I am all for less is more, keeping it simple for that direct feel.., less weight.. Etc. But this steering rack is designed for power assist. Most importantly.. It's excellent the way it is!
You can probably pull a fuse or a relay and check it out yourself without much fuss.. I have no interest in doing so..

[448hpsti]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

I am all for less is more, keeping it simple for that direct feel.., less weight.. Etc. But this steering rack is designed for power assist. Most importantly.. It's excellent the way it is!
You can probably pull a fuse or a relay and check it out yourself without much fuss.. I have no interest in doing so..

Lol.

That's it. I'm taking out the motor. And transmission.

I'm going full on BEDROCK BUILD, YO

I don't want power anything.

All I need to do is cut a hole in the floor board on both driver and passenger

Yabba dabba doo! Meet the flint stones, bare foot powered 86, coming soon.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

You can probably pull a fuse or a relay and check it out yourself without much fuss...

I'll be home in about 2 months, so if no one has tried it by then, I'll give it a go. I expect it to feel ridiculously heavy without the assist though. We shall see...

[troek]

i took a look at the motor today out of curiosity. it looks huge and heavy, and a giant pain in the ass to remove, if even possible. i also drove my car down a hill with the engine off, it was pretty tough to turn under 30k.