If 2014 was the last model year for the twins...

[Marcoscrdo]

Yeah isnt there a famous teg type r with like 1-3k miles from 90's?

[Chee-Hu]

I would absolutely be happy! Selfish, yes, but there has been ample time for any enthusiast to pick one up.

[strat61caster]

wtf is wrong with you people. The more successful and long lived this car is the more that the 86 sets a standard that other cars have to live up to in terms of driver engagement.

Decidedly sad.

[infinite012]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

wtf is wrong with you people. The more successful and long lived this car is the more that the 86 sets a standard that other cars have to live up to in terms of driver engagement.

Decidedly sad.

Most of the world would benefit from autonomous/public transport, not better handling.

[Kids Heart]

Happy as hell!

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by infinite012

Most of the world would benefit from autonomous/public transport, not better handling.

That's nice, but I'm a car guy, I want cars that feel good to drive.

I honestly can't wait for Google to start putting autonomous cars into consumer hand, and I think it'll happen rather soon, but in the meantime why wouldn't we want the future cars to be as awesome as they can be instead of being refrigerators with wheels?

With rumors of the miniZ, 130R and now the S1500, I hope the 86 at least gets a fully supported life cycle (~6-8 years). Competition is good when people are trying to outperform each other, the next Miata and Mustang should be a good kick in the pants to anyone else still standing around.

[immaculate]

A little of both. The added exclusivity would be cool. But this project is kind of one big litmus test for the sports car market. Nobody else is really making affordable, lightweight RWD coupes. We've been hearing for a while now that several manufacturers are planning to release something similar. If the twins fail, it becomes less likely any other manufacturers try to tap into this market.

[Diode Dynamics]

Originally Posted by immaculate

A little of both. The added exclusivity would be cool. But this project is kind of one big litmus test for the sports car market. Nobody else is really making affordable, lightweight RWD coupes. We've been hearing for a while now that several manufacturers are planning to release something similar. If the twins fail, it becomes less likely any other manufacturers try to tap into this market.

^^^THIS +1

Looking forward to seeing the competition


Nick C.

[DoomsdayJesus]

I would be happy that there weren't any more of these threads.

What if butterflies had lead wings?
What if the sky were red?
What if my dog is really monitoring my activities for the NSA?

Also public transportation blows, private transport is more efficient in the US, and autonomous will never happen on public roads.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by DoomsdayJesus

I would be happy that there weren't any more of these threads.

1. What if butterflies had lead wings?
2. What if the sky were red?
3. What if my dog is really monitoring my activities for the NSA?

4. Also public transportation blows, private transport is more efficient in the US, and autonomous will never happen on public roads.

1. They would have died out eons ago
2. 99% of people wouldn't notice or care
3. Hahahaha, "if"
4. US has terribly underfunded public transportation, that's why it "blows", I'll bet $5 that autonomous vehicles will be available for private use within 10 years, Google will provide services via autonomous cars within 5.

It's the internet, everybody has an opinion and nobody cares.
:happy0180:

[enwave]

Originally Posted by DoomsdayJesus

I would be happy that there weren't any more of these threads.

What if butterflies had lead wings?
What if the sky were red?
What if my dog is really monitoring my activities for the NSA?

Also public transportation blows, private transport is more efficient in the US, and autonomous will never happen on public roads.

Oh come on. This is more revealing than a lot of threads on this forum. It is interesting to see how people would react if their car was made permanently rare, and why they would feel that way.

The quote above about a BRZ/FR-S failure discouraging the rest of the manufacturing world is a really interesting one because the inverse is true too -- if the platform is successful then the competition should respond.

Sometimes it takes the reversal of a thought to think a little deeper, which is why I asked the question.

[BRZfan]

I've got to stop reading all these bullshit threads. I am wasting my time and am getting a headache.

[DoomsdayJesus]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

4. US has terribly underfunded public transportation, that's why it "blows", I'll bet $5 that autonomous vehicles will be available for private use within 10 years, Google will provide services via autonomous cars within 5.

It's the internet, everybody has an opinion and nobody cares.
:happy0180:

The US is larger than nations with successful public transportation, and if you factor in systems that actually turn a profit, public transportation is awful. Not to mention, we have transportation systems that run regardless of passenger load, meaning they continue to burn fuel and their efficiency drops like a rock. Privately owned vehicles burn nothing when they're parked, and only burn fuel when they're needed.

Car and Driver had a couple great write-ups on how inefficient public transportation is, and why it simply doesn't work for much of the US. http://www.caranddriver.com/columns/...y-take-the-car http://www.caranddriver.com/columns/...-chance-column

And they've been talking about autonomous cars since the early 90s, it's not going to happen unless they can segregate traffic. There are simply too many safety issues.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by DoomsdayJesus

Car and Driver did a really in-depth write-up on how inefficient public transportation is, and why it simply doesn't work for much of the US.

And they've been talking about autonomous cars since the early 90s, it's not going to happen unless they can segregate traffic. There are simply too many safety issues.

You're right, geographically speaking public transit will never work for the 'majority' of the US. In college I had access to a public transit system in a small town that made owning a car less convenient than public transit, guess I'm spoiled.

I guess you haven't seen one yet, autonomous cars are better than 95% of the other drivers I share the road with. They don't need to segregate traffic, the car is 'smart' enough and safer than most drivers.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXylqtEQ0tk"]How Google's Self-Driving Car Works - YouTube[/ame]