My DEAD FRS Had to be Taken to the Dealership Yesterday

[Ganthrithor]

Originally Posted by chenshuo

i was in LA for vacation last christmas. it was so warm for me. we rent a convertible and had the top down the whole time and we were wearing just a shirt. the locals look at us weird.

Two people wearing one shirt and nothing else? I would have looked at you weird too :P

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

I haven't bothered checking, but can anyone confirm pressing the start button twice without depressing the clutch does the same thing? I believe that's ACC power, but I always just start the car.

Without depressing clutch, ACC power is obtained pressing the button once. ACC power does not start the fuel pump, its for ACCesories like radio and lighter. Pressing the button a second time, (its called ON in a car with regular key), is when the fuel pump starts priming and the dash lights up like a Christmas tree.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Who cares what they're called! Whatever the key position is just before the key position for cranking, it's obtained by pressing the button twice and it primes the pump; that was the question.

[Coheed]

I wonder if low fuel pressure causes poor fuel atomization, thus a flood condition? I've always attributed it to a poor cold-start tune, but perhaps this explanation makes more sense...

[naikaidriver]

Originally Posted by Coheed

I wonder if low fuel pressure causes poor fuel atomization, thus a flood condition? I've always attributed it to a poor cold-start tune, but perhaps this explanation makes more sense...

That certainly is possible but I would have thought a low fuel pressure condition would have thrown a CEL. Nothing.

Sorry for how long its been since an update guys but I have been super busy with work/life.

So its been 4 days and the car is still running perfect. I did some reading in the owner's manual and it seems that the car IS indeed fitted with an anti-theft immobilizer that kills the fuel system in the event that someone tries to start it with a key that doesn't have the chip inside. To date, that system crapping out on me is the most likely cause of what happened.

If this happens again, I'll be sure to update the thread.

Scott

[KSC]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

To the people with cold start issues...have you tried priming the fuel system by turning the key to ACC for a couple of seconds and then cranking?

I had to do this with my Civic when starting in very cold weather sometimes.

I'm always amazed at how many people don't do this. Every time I get into a car, I turn the key to ACC, wait for the tach sweep, dash lights, and all gauges to come up, then I turn it to "On" (pump the gas once or twice if it's particularly cold out), wait a few secs, and then start it up. I guess I'm not in any rush to get where I'm going...

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by KSC

Every time I get into a car, I turn the key to ACC, wait for the tach sweep, dash lights, and all gauges to come up, then I turn it to "On" (pump the gas once or twice if it's particularly cold out), wait a few secs, and then start it up. I guess I'm not in any rush to get where I'm going...

You know that part does absolutely nothing, right?

[KSC]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

You know that part does absolutely nothing, right?

Clicking the door lock button an extra time, checking to make sure the oven is turned off (when you know it is), and knocking on wood (*knocks on wood*) doesn't either, but...

Just habits, I guess. Some may say (especially those who have had other cars where they just hop in, twist the key, take off, and never have a single problem) that all of it does absolutely nothing, but for me, even if placebo is in full effect, it does.

[rusty959]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

You know that part does absolutely nothing, right?

Wait I thought pressing the gas before you start squirted gas out of the carburetor acceleration enrichment thing?

[Sony]

Originally Posted by rusty959

Wait I thought pressing the gas before you start squirted gas out of the carburetor acceleration enrichment thing?

I don't know if you're joking or what...but just in case this is a legitimate question.

Our cars are Electronically Fuel Injected, there is no Carburetor. Stepping on the gas with the engine turned off on a car with EFI does absolutely nothing other than opening the throttle body...and it only does that on cars with a cable throttle. Our throttle is Fly-By-Wire, so pressing the throttle with the engine off doesn't even move the throttle body....it does absolutely nothing whatsoever.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Sony

I don't know if you're joking or what...but just in case this is a legitimate question.

Our cars are Electronically Fuel Injected, there is no Carburetor. Stepping on the gas with the engine turned off on a car with EFI does absolutely nothing other than opening the throttle body...and it only does that on cars with a cable throttle. Our throttle is Fly-By-Wire, so pressing the throttle with the engine off doesn't even move the throttle body....it does absolutely nothing whatsoever.

He was trolling bro...

[Sony]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

He was trolling bro...

Couldn't tell...some people come from the carburetor age and may not know how EFI works...I was legitimately answering the question just in case, wasn't ridiculing him or anything.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Sony

Couldn't tell...some people come from the carburetor age and may not know how EFI works...I was legitimately answering the question just in case, wasn't ridiculing him or anything.

Carburetor enrichment thing? Cmon, that's so trolling..

[Coheed]

I'm gonna go with my theory of flooding. It isn't common, but it does happen. Next time it happens use the flood-control option. Not sure if this car has flood-control, but it should. WOT while cranking cuts off injection to clear the combustion chambers in a flood condition.

Worth giving it a shot next time it does it... if it does it again. It could be a long while.