2013 Scion FR-S: 10 Things You Don't Know (Maybe) - Insideline

[keiri]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

wait wut I always thought US cars got the worse exhaust...
Are new euro/jp emissions stricter than USA now O_O

It's very possible that it's not an emissions-based restriction but an aural, noise restriction; the exhaust will be louder and less muffled while providing the extra 3HP bump.

At least, that's what I suspect...

[DuMa]

Any of you jdm ppl want my exhaust? I sell to you very good price

[JDLM]

Originally Posted by 3scapist

Maybe I should wait for the stripped down version then No radio, no backseats, maybe a 4 point roll cage from the factory? Heaven.

Hyundai Korea does this

[Ikaros]

Lol I knew a convertible version was unlikely already >_> I like how they cleared up the mystery behind the 197HP vs 200HP though.

[Guff]

Lots of these reviewers are saying there will be lowering springs from Scion now...

Will they be any good? Overpriced?

[JDLM]

Originally Posted by Guff

Lots of these reviewers are saying there will be lowering springs from Scion now...

WIll they be any good? Overpriced?

They are usually re-branded Eibach springs

[Ryephile]

The comparison with the Evo IX steering feel is massive kudos to the FR-S, as the Evo IX has some of the best steering feel out there.

Other than that, it's probably more like "10 things you didn't know if you hadn't been paying attention". LOL

[tripjammer]

Very interesting...we seem to get more info each day...

2. It Has a Torsen Limited-Slip Differential
Tada-san prefers the quicker reactions of a clutch-type limited-slip differential but settled on a Torsen gear-type differential because of its progressive engagement. There's also a brake differential built into the stability control system's operation which Tada-san says reacts faster than the Torsen anyway. But when stability control is fully disabled (by pressing and holding the traction control button for 3 seconds) the brake differential is gone as well.

And that's when the magic happens anyway, right?

3. There's Solid Evidence a Turbo Is Coming
Tada-san tells us the FR-S's Aisin-built six-speed manual has headroom to handle more torque, but he won't reveal how much. Still, his conspicuous laugh tells us there's enough to accommodate turbocharging.

The primary benchmark for the FR-S was the Porsche Cayman.

Also, for a car with a flat engine the FR-S's hood line is awfully high. Forward visibility isn't as good as we imagined it would be in a car with this layout. But this might be a worthwhile compromise.

A quick look under the hood reveals several inches between the top of the intake manifold and the underside of the hood — probably enough to package an intercooler. It looks to us like there's enough real estate for a WRX-style intercooler mount with the intake manifold feeding from the rear instead of from the front as it does in normally aspirated trim.

[ydooby]

Originally Posted by keiri

It's very possible that it's not an emissions-based restriction but an aural, noise restriction; the exhaust will be louder and less muffled while providing the extra 3HP bump.

At least, that's what I suspect...

I'm pretty sure it's purely for marketing reasons--simply because Japan and Europe use ps (DIN hp) and the US uses SAE hp and Toyota's marketing team decided that "200hp" sounds better than 197hp, while in Japan/Europe "200ps" sounds just fine.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

Very interesting...we seem to get more info each day...

2. It Has a Torsen Limited-Slip Differential
Tada-san prefers the quicker reactions of a clutch-type limited-slip differential but settled on a Torsen gear-type differential because of its progressive engagement. There's also a brake differential built into the stability control system's operation which Tada-san says reacts faster than the Torsen anyway. But when stability control is fully disabled (by pressing and holding the traction control button for 3 seconds) the brake differential is gone as well.

And that's when the magic happens anyway, right?

3. There's Solid Evidence a Turbo Is Coming
Tada-san tells us the FR-S's Aisin-built six-speed manual has headroom to handle more torque, but he won't reveal how much. Still, his conspicuous laugh tells us there's enough to accommodate turbocharging.

The primary benchmark for the FR-S was the Porsche Cayman.

Also, for a car with a flat engine the FR-S's hood line is awfully high. Forward visibility isn't as good as we imagined it would be in a car with this layout. But this might be a worthwhile compromise.

A quick look under the hood reveals several inches between the top of the intake manifold and the underside of the hood — probably enough to package an intercooler. It looks to us like there's enough real estate for a WRX-style intercooler mount with the intake manifold feeding from the rear instead of from the front as it does in normally aspirated trim.

We knew about the torsen awhile ago.

And the second part could just be him laughing at all the "no turbo? wtf!" guys in here lol

The torque statement with the trans is kinda worrisome though.. crappy AY6 (well ok maybe not crappy but nowhere near the az6) instead?

[tranzformer]

I just hope weight is closer to low 2700 instead of 2800.

[keiri]

Originally Posted by ydooby

I'm pretty sure it's purely for marketing reasons--simply because Japan and Europe use ps (DIN hp) and the US uses SAE hp and Toyota's marketing team decided that "200hp" sounds better than 197hp, while in Japan/Europe "200ps" sounds just fine.

Possibly. I'll be interested to see dB tests on both exhausts in time.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by keiri

Possibly. I'll be interested to see dB tests on both exhausts in time.

Why? Neither will be loud.. and loud doesn't mean better tone..

I personally hate loud exhausts though. :shrug:

[Giccin]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Why? Neither will be loud.. and loud doesn't mean better tone..

I personally hate loud exhausts though. :shrug:

Ditto. I like the low.. grumble.