Agency Power Exhaust - My Experience

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by seven

I'm glad someone posted this...
It seems to me ONE guy had a failure and wasn't taken care of so he went to the forums to vent, which is fine.

However this sheep mentality many have here (because for many, it's a first car, or first car to mod - so they don't know any better and just listen to the mob) seems to have caused issues with what might be an otherwise decent product.

Um, no not really ONE guy.. try a bit more...

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ighlight=vivid

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=930971

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13011

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12553

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12181

More than enough I'd say.....

OBVIOUSLY not 100% of their products will be bad. But the amount of bad vs. the good scares a LOT of people from getting their stuff. And its not only about being good or bad products, its also about blatant lies.

[seven]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Um, no not really ONE guy.. try a bit more...

Fair enough, however when I brought up a test pipe and other brought other stuff up... I kept seeing the SAME ONE THREAD.

I figure for the $360 I spent for my test pipe I don't mind tac-welding the slip joint (if it even needs it, doubt it will). Closest you can come to an over-pipe and front pipe combo in price is FA20Club and thats $450+shipping so realistically about $480. $120 is way more than a tac weld at any shop. So the over/front pipe combo is worth it to me.

The exhaust, well I haven't bothered to look much because, as others said, it's a little loud. However a tac weld would fix the issue. If the exhaust is cheap enough to be worth it? I dunno. J2 and ISIS are pretty cheap exhuasts and IIRC the ISIS exhaust made one of the most hp in the DSPORT shoot-out.


*edit*

WTF all those threads are about WHP claims and who Vivid is vs Agency power... Admittedly I skimmed thru but none of those threads were in regards to build quality or FAILURES - which is what my post was about and what you highlighted - Some of those threads are about STIs not BRZ/FRS. I wouldn't call that backing up your point. If you'd like to post links to individual posts showing failures I'd be all ears tho. Help me understand here sir

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ighlight=vivid


OBVIOUSLY not 100% of their products will be bad. But the amount of bad vs. the good scares a LOT of people from getting their stuff. And its not only about being good or bad products, its also about blatant lies.

Originally Posted by seven

*edit*

WTF all those threads are about WHP claims and who Vivid is vs Agency power... Admittedly I skimmed thru but none of those threads were in regards to build quality or FAILURES - which is what my post was about and what you highlighted - Some of those threads are about STIs not BRZ/FRS. I wouldn't call that backing up your point.

Hey man, it is your money and you spend it however you want. I have no problem with that and respect it. And you actually make good points. I still wouldn't touch it with a 20 foot pole.

The NASIOC thread is not about numbers, its about build quality and orders gone bad. Lastly, if you read again my post read the bolded part. THAT is what the threads here are about, blatant lies.

[seven]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

THAT is what the threads here are about, blatant lies.

You bolded failures, and then brought up lies. Hence my confusion.
I'll definitely post my exhaust my review... the setup is Borla UEL, AP over/front pipe, and a Q300 cbe

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by seven

You bolded failures, and then brought up failures and lies. Hence my confusion.
I'll definitely post my exhaust my review... the setup is Borla UEL, AP over/front pipe, and a Q300 cbe

Corrected that for you I brought both (first thread is about failures and orders gone bad).

[seven]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Corrected that for you I brought both (first thread is about failures and orders gone bad).

This is what I was referring to and what I was explaining...



That should clear it up.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by seven

This is what I was referring to and what I was explaining...


That should clear it up.

Nevermind...

[track_warrior]

Originally Posted by seven

See what I mean about M3 owners? Just kidding

Its funny you mention that because AP has a bad rep among E9X M3 owners as well as they sell their exhaust as their own and it is actually fabricated by the same people who make the megan one. The Megan costs around 600 bucks and they are way north of 1000k for the same system.

Read post number #11 a reputable vendor confirms this as well as many other posts in the thread. Of course there will always be idiots like the one in post #86.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=455961

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Um, no not really ONE guy.. try a bit more...

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ighlight=vivid

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=930971

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13011

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12553

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12181

More than enough I'd say.....

OBVIOUSLY not 100% of their products will be bad. But the amount of bad vs. the good scares a LOT of people from getting their stuff. And its not only about being good or bad products, its also about blatant lies.

So many problems man, check out my link above about the E9X M3 exhaust as well, same thing as the Megan but costs more than twice.

[seven]

Always had a good rep among E46 guys...

Maybe they got lucky on that one... or perhaps they've bought megan stuff an re-badged it since.
I don't work for em or endorse them, just saying it seemed to me like a lot more to do about nothing. I can admit I was wrong.
I'll still review the AP front pipe then too

[track_warrior]

Originally Posted by seven

Always had a good rep among E46 guys...

Maybe they got lucky on that one... or perhaps they've bought megan stuff an re-badged it since.
I don't work for em or endorse them, just saying it seemed to me like a lot more to do about nothing. I can admit I was wrong.
I'll still review the AP front pipe then too

BTW you should be fine with an over pipe as there is nothing that can go wrong with it. The problem comes from the slip joint the AP catback uses in both the y pipe connection and the right canister.

[seven]

Originally Posted by pcasso87

BTW you should be fine with an over pipe as there is nothing that can go wrong with it. The problem comes from the slip joint the AP catback uses in both the y pipe connection and the right canister.

Thats the thread I saw (and what I was referring to as "the one thread") - Ironically I said the exact same thing about the over pipe "what could fail" - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25962 in that thread.

Everyone told me they're crap and it'll fail anyway. Even tho basically it can't fail unless the flanges are bad lol. Hopefully they aren't haha.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by seven

Thats the thread I saw (and what I was referring to as "the one thread") - Ironically I said the exact same thing about the over pipe "what could fail" - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25962 in that thread.

Everyone told me they're crap and it'll fail anyway. Even tho basically it can't fail unless the flanges are bad lol. Hopefully they aren't haha.

I think the problem is, a lot of people are not really thinking about can it fail or not (including me). A lot of people are just fed up with the way AP runs their business and jump the gun instantly to say how bad they have been/are.

To give you an example, I wouldn't touch the AP overpipe (even though you are absolutely right, nothing can go wrong its just a pipe) just because I won't give money to a company that runs their business the way they do given that there are numerous other amazing options (albeit more expensive).

Again, no knock on you. I respect your choices and opinions.

[seven]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

I think the problem is, a lot of people are not really thinking about can it fail or not (including me). A lot of people are just fed up with the way AP runs their business and jump the gun instantly to say how bad they have been/are.

To give you an example, I wouldn't touch the AP overpipe (even though you are absolutely right, nothing can go wrong its just a pipe) just because I won't give money to a company that runs their business the way they do given that there are numerous other amazing options (albeit more expensive).

Again, no knock on you. I respect your choices and opinions.

I figure I'm giving Jeremy at FT86 Speed factory my business really. Yes AP makes some money but like we all agree, it can't really fail it's just a pipe, and for the price I can't get close to it (FA20CLUBs stuff would be 470-485 shipped for me). I paid much less. So if I was gonna buy it anyway, at least its from a vendor who might be more likely to help. If they can't or won't so be it... I'll get it welded.

[Zadkiel]

Originally Posted by seven

I figure I'm giving Jeremy at FT86 Speed factory my business really. Yes AP makes some money but like we all agree, it can't really fail it's just a pipe, and for the price I can't get close to it (FA20CLUBs stuff would be 470-485 shipped for me). I paid much less. So if I was gonna buy it anyway, at least its from a vendor who might be more likely to help. If they can't or won't so be it... I'll get it welded.

I have NEVER had a bad experience with FT86SpeedFactory. The majority of parts on my car, minus the LED stuff, comes from them.