What would be your ideal BRZ STI?

[exmayol]

Lighter, more powerful, a bit more agressive looking package for under 35K would make sense.

[Harinjo]

FB20 Turbo - 300hp and 1320kg curb weight

[Quantum]

This is a great thread, but maybe I'm a bit different (older?) than most of you.

My ideal BRZ is the base "Premium" model with a few tweaks I do myself. Target is 220hp pushing 2400lbs, sticky tires on 16" forged wheels stuffed with the biggest brakes that will fit inside. I'm much more interested in removing things than adding on.

If STI goes turbo or supercharger, there are a multitude of related systems/items that would need to be changed. You'll end up with a very different car.

Cheers,
Hong

[subaruslow]

-275 hp NA (hehe) turbo ok too
-Exhaust, don't make me upgrade my STi Exhaust
-Brembos-needed for track use, sti=track day weekend car
-Adjustable suspension dampening
-Cross member type race
-Carbon fiber front under spoiler/Roof??,
-Cool rims, bbs etc. amazing tires
-Heavy alcantara/cf interior
-Tow hook package, cheap
-Spoiler i guess <--- not a fan but swap trunk with one on for track day
-ss brake lines
-short shifter kit
-shift light like sti
-gauge sweep like sti when car starts
---an urban grey metal, or SGM, a grey that is unique w green tones?

[subaruslow]

Originally Posted by Quantum

This is a great thread, but maybe I'm a bit different (older?) than most of you.

My ideal BRZ is the base "Premium" model with a few tweaks I do myself. Target is 220hp pushing 2400lbs, sticky tires on 16" forged wheels stuffed with the biggest brakes that will fit inside. I'm much more interested in removing things than adding on.

If STI goes turbo or supercharger, there are a multitude of related systems/items that would need to be changed. You'll end up with a very different car.

Cheers,
Hong

well the coming Sti will be an fb2.0 turbo, so I don't see it being that far fetched.I definitely don't believe there won't be a brembo'ed track ready model within a year of launch. I also don't understand the attitude that adding power to car solely designed to handling is some of a no no, but having high horse powered fat sedans is right?

I mean look at the differences between the wrxs/legacy/sti over the years in the US, lots of different engine components running around, not to mention the base model n/a imprezas.

In my mind something like JCW mini has more power and less weight, its easy as pie to drive, so why do we act as if the brz can't handle similar power/weight ratio?

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by subaruslow

well the coming Sti will be an fb2.0 turbo, so I don't see it being that far fetched.I definitely don't believe there won't be a brembo'ed track ready model within a year of launch. I also don't understand the attitude that adding power to car solely designed to handling is some of a no no, but having high horse powered fat sedans is right?

I mean look at the differences between the wrxs/legacy/sti over the years in the US, lots of different engine components running around, not to mention the base model n/a imprezas.

In my mind something like JCW mini has more power and less weight, its easy as pie to drive, so why do we act as if the brz can't handle similar power/weight ratio?

I think it is how the power is applied. NA power >>> turbo power in this car. I wouldn't mind seeing a 2.2-2.4L car putting out 240-260hp NA. But I don't think I want a turbo in this car after reading all the reviews.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by subaruslow

-Brembos-needed for track use, sti=track day weekend car

No, brembos are not needed for track use. Mark my words, the stock BRZ brakes with track pads and good fluid will be PLENTY for track use. Fixed four pots will give you better modulation and pad wear. Either will provide enough friction to lock r comps. Larger DISCS will help with track use if the 11.6/11.4 setup doesn't prove to be enough of a heatsink for track use with the extra power.

[WhiteGDB]

Originally Posted by DuMa

im just really uneducated on STI history. you are welcome to educate me though :P

Ok, I'll bite. These are differences between the WRX and WRX STI throughout the years. There isn't one year STI that has all these changes, but most of the differences can be found when comparing any model year.

Things like, bigger turbo/intercooler/injectors, more boost, different heads/internals/manifolds/up pipes/exhaust, quicker steering rack, 6 speed tranny with DCCD, LSD, bigger differential, 5x114.3 hubs, brembos, forged BBS wheels, sticky tires, stiffer/lower suspension, larger sway bars with upgraded endlinks, aluminum control arms, different suspension geometry, splitter, spoiler, underbody panels, diffuser, STI specific interior/tach/steering wheel, thinner/lighter front windows(yes they actually did this), radio delete, and I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting.

So what I purposed is actually tame for an STI model. STI is a serious tuning division of Subaru that's heavily involved in motorsports much like BMW's M division. They don't do simple tune/appearance packages and call it a day. Their pretty much balls to the wall when creating an STI anything.

[Levi]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

No, brembos are not needed for track use. Mark my words, the stock BRZ brakes with track pads and good fluid will be PLENTY for track use. Fixed four pots will give you better modulation and pad wear. Either will provide enough friction to lock r comps. Larger DISCS will help with track use if the 11.6/11.4 setup doesn't prove to be enough of a heatsink for track use with the extra power.

You are right, but AP Racing are better, actually best brakes.

[Torquesteered]

A free 1

[DRACHENV6]

If subaru/toyota made it like that from factory, it would be awesome.

Originally Posted by Quantum

This is a great thread, but maybe I'm a bit different (older?) than most of you.

My ideal BRZ is the base "Premium" model with a few tweaks I do myself. Target is 220hp pushing 2400lbs, sticky tires on 16" forged wheels stuffed with the biggest brakes that will fit inside. I'm much more interested in removing things than adding on.

If STI goes turbo or supercharger, there are a multitude of related systems/items that would need to be changed. You'll end up with a very different car.

Cheers,
Hong

[subaruslow]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

No, brembos are not needed for track use. Mark my words, the stock BRZ brakes with track pads and good fluid will be PLENTY for track use. Fixed four pots will give you better modulation and pad wear. Either will provide enough friction to lock r comps. Larger DISCS will help with track use if the 11.6/11.4 setup doesn't prove to be enough of a heatsink for track use with the extra power.

yeah, if it has more power they definitely are. Clearly these will do some 20 min sessions but thats their max if that. Anyway if there is an sti it will have brembos so no worries. Having owned 2 cars with big brakes i'll never go back.

oh just pads rotors/fluids lines and of the highest quality=more than brembos

Also you need to understand its the repetitive stopping from higher speeds, not really how fast a car is.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by subaruslow

-275 hp NA (hehe) turbo ok too
-Exhaust, don't make me upgrade my STi Exhaust
-Brembos-needed for track use, sti=track day weekend car
-Adjustable suspension dampening
-Cross member type race
-Carbon fiber front under spoiler/Roof??,
-Cool rims, bbs etc. amazing tires
-Heavy alcantara/cf interior
-Tow hook package, cheap
-Spoiler i guess <--- not a fan but swap trunk with one on for track day
-ss brake lines
-short shifter kit
-shift light like sti
-gauge sweep like sti when car starts
---an urban grey metal, or SGM, a grey that is unique w green tones?

Already got it:

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by subaruslow

yeah, if it has more power they definitely are. Clearly these will do some 20 min sessions but thats their max if that. Anyway if there is an sti it will have brembos so no worries. Having owned 2 cars with big brakes i'll never go back.

oh just pads rotors/fluids lines and of the highest quality=more than brembos

Also you need to understand its the repetitive stopping from higher speeds, not really how fast a car is.

20 minutes is the max? Please explain your reasoning for that.

Pads and fluid is more than brembos? I don't even know what that means.

It's the repeated stopping from higher speeds that can require bigger brakes. By that I mean rotors which are what takes and holds heat until it can be removed.

I might just understand how brakes work and whats needed to use then for long durations on the track.

I'm not saying that four pots are bad but these brakes were originally designed for cars with more weight and hp than the brz and they can track fine there. They will NOT have a problem with the brz for multiple hour long track usage as long as you use good fluid and pads which is the same requirement for fixed 4 pots too.