Brake Pad Discussion Thread

[tintumz22]

Brake Pad Manufacturer (F/R): WORKS
Caliper (F/R): OEM/OEM
Rotor Size (F/R - IE OEM or specify): OEM
Compound (F/R): WORKS Blue Pads Street/Track Useable
Tires: OEM

Feedback:
As advertised in there website it is street/track able pads. I got the chance to ran these brake pads in an event at Sonoma Raceway, here in California. It's an HPDE and it was cold in the morning but got hot during the afternoon runs so I got to see the difference running them between cold and hot weather. First on the track, in the first run of the morning, I did not really make hard stop braking because of it's the first laps but going at about 70-80 mph and braking to enter a corner it has that bite in a push on the pedal even after 4-5 laps the feel was still the same. As I progressed through the day of the event and the weather got warmer, I pushed the car a bit more aggressive and did some aggressive stopping 95-60, 95-40, 90-30 for a whole 20mins session, but still the brake did not give any sign of fading considering that I have stock tires, no feel of it lacking in stopping power. Street use, having cold weather for the last couple of days. The brakes impressed me because of its "no noise". I actually expect that a performance brake pads being used in Evos, it will be noisy in streets and on the track but it lived up to the claim that it's a street able brake pads. Even in my runs in the track I can't hear any squealing noise in hard stops. no sign of rotor problems.

[Hags86]

Brake Pad Manufacturer (F/R): Ferodo / OEM
Caliper (F/R): OEM/OEM
Rotor Size (F/R - IE OEM or specify): OEM
Compound (F/R): DS2500 / OEM
Tires: Yokohama 215/45R17 A048 Semi Slick

I had a recent track day at Sandown in Melbourne which is pretty hard on brakes. It was about 35C (95F). We were running 20 minute sessions and I ran every lap as hard as I could and didn't get a hint of brake fade.

By contrast there was an other identical GTS86 there with OEM rubber and pads. He could only get 2 hot laps before having to run a cool down lap due to brake fade.

I think it will be a while before my skill level forces me to upgrade anything other than pads.

[BRZ NA]

Originally Posted by tintumz22

Brake Pad Manufacturer (F/R): WORKS
Caliper (F/R): OEM/OEM
Rotor Size (F/R - IE OEM or specify): OEM
Compound (F/R): WORKS Blue Pads Street/Track Useable
Tires: OEM

Feedback:
As advertised in there website it is street/track able pads. I got the chance to ran these brake pads in an event at Sonoma Raceway, here in California. It's an HPDE and it was cold in the morning but got hot during the afternoon runs so I got to see the difference running them between cold and hot weather. First on the track, in the first run of the morning, I did not really make hard stop braking because of it's the first laps but going at about 70-80 mph and braking to enter a corner it has that bite in a push on the pedal even after 4-5 laps the feel was still the same. As I progressed through the day of the event and the weather got warmer, I pushed the car a bit more aggressive and did some aggressive stopping 95-60, 95-40, 90-30 for a whole 20mins session, but still the brake did not give any sign of fading considering that I have stock tires, no feel of it lacking in stopping power. Street use, having cold weather for the last couple of days. The brakes impressed me because of its "no noise". I actually expect that a performance brake pads being used in Evos, it will be noisy in streets and on the track but it lived up to the claim that it's a street able brake pads. Even in my runs in the track I can't hear any squealing noise in hard stops. no sign of rotor problems.

Perfect, that's the set I m looking for for Just now. Thx.however,any feedback for the tires while running on this kinda of set up?

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by Hags86

Brake Pad Manufacturer (F/R): Ferodo / OEM
Caliper (F/R): OEM/OEM
Rotor Size (F/R - IE OEM or specify): OEM
Compound (F/R): DS2500 / OEM
Tires: Yokohama 215/45R17 A048 Semi Slick

I had a recent track day at Sandown in Melbourne which is pretty hard on brakes. It was about 35C (95F). We were running 20 minute sessions and I ran every lap as hard as I could and didn't get a hint of brake fade.

By contrast there was an other identical GTS86 there with OEM rubber and pads. He could only get 2 hot laps before having to run a cool down lap due to brake fade.

I think it will be a while before my skill level forces me to upgrade anything other than pads.

What Ferodo did you use? DSUNO?

[tintumz22]

Originally Posted by BRZ NA

Perfect, that's the set I m looking for for Just now. Thx.however,any feedback for the tires while running on this kinda of set up?

You will expect a lot of tire noise (squealing noise) If you're not careful you will slide the car but it has little grip on it. It's surprisingly a prius tires.

[Chewie4299]

This thread is great. Those WORKS pads sound perfect.


I've never upgraded brakes before but I had terrible luck with my evo brakes. Never could break them in properly and they were horrifically loud.

[CSG David]

Higher performance brake pads generally have more dust and noise when not bedded in properly. Properly bedded in track pads don't make a squeal on the street.

[DAMotorsports]

We contacted Brian @Fastbrakes.com and picked up some hawk DTC-30 pads front and rear. We headed out to Willow Springs (big Willow) for some base line testing. Only upgrades other then the breaks is a TRD air filter, TRD aero kit and a set of Toyotires R1R size 235/40/17.

The breaks were amazing no fade problems even after a 15minute session. The car is super balanced and had no problems stopping. We turned a 1:38.0 during the time attack.

[86_ZN6]

Originally Posted by Chewie4299

This thread is great. Those WORKS pads sound perfect.

let me know if you need a set!

[Hags86]

Originally Posted by CSG David

What Ferodo did you use? DSUNO?

DS2500.

[ft_sjo]

I'm a huge fan of DS2500's over may years, but i'm not convinced they're the right pad for street use on a GT86. Performance is pretty poor when cold. Seems to need a good 3-4 seconds or so of hard braking before they really start to bite. This is not my experience of DS2500's on other cars, they've always been exceptionally good even when cold.

I've not used them on a track yet so can't comment on that usage.

However, there is a slight chance they are not bedded in properly and/or glazed. The weather here has been crap for the past couple of months and trying to do some 100-0 bedding in procedures just results in the ABS going nuts. Once it warms up a bit i'll be swapping on the AD08's and should be able to get considerably more bite into them. I'll report back if this noticeably improves things.

[eckoflyte]

ive used both Project Mu HC+ and Carbotech XP10. Both are geared toward abusive track use with temps up to 800 celcius, however they can be streetable too.

They both stop very well even with an OEM caliper setup. the HC+ had very good initial bite but less modulation vs the XP10. XP10 stop equally as well, less initial bite but easier to modulate.

if you bed them in properly with a proper layer of pad on the rotor they will not squeal. however if you daily your car often, the pads are abrasive and will remove the pad layer resulting in squeal.

I prefer the XP10 as they are slightly cheaper and also seem to last longer than the HC+.

[JRitt]

Originally Posted by ft_sjo

I'm a huge fan of DS2500's over may years, but i'm not convinced they're the right pad for street use on a GT86. Performance is pretty poor when cold. Seems to need a good 3-4 seconds or so of hard braking before they really start to bite. This is not my experience of DS2500's on other cars, they've always been exceptionally good even when cold.

I've not used them on a track yet so can't comment on that usage.

However, there is a slight chance they are not bedded in properly and/or glazed. The weather here has been crap for the past couple of months and trying to do some 100-0 bedding in procedures just results in the ABS going nuts. Once it warms up a bit i'll be swapping on the AD08's and should be able to get considerably more bite into them. I'll report back if this noticeably improves things.

I'd definitely try bedding them in. I think that's what's going on. The DS2500's generally have great feel/bite from cold to fairly toasty.

[kanundrum]

I was looking for this thread and need to research what pads would be best for autocross. Dont care about rotor life or dust, I want results!