follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing

Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing Relating to suspension, chassis, and brakes. Sponsored by 949 Racing.

Register and become an FT86Club.com member. You will see fewer ads

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-08-2019, 04:42 PM   #15
Decep
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Drives: 2013 FR-S Series 10
Location: CA
Posts: 1,073
Thanks: 172
Thanked 497 Times in 326 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by churchx View Post
camber shouldn't affect much handling. Many drive just fine with considerable amount of negative camber for dual-use, track and daily driving, cars. Toe on the other hand can do bad things to handling even at slight extent wrong, making car not track straight or tending to turn to one side if braking or if accelerating, if toe not even, be too stable unwilling to turn, or opposite, too nervous and willing to loose traction, especially under throttle, cause extra toe tire wear and hurt fuel economy and so on.
Toe = preturned wheel to/from centerline. That means, if turned a lot - wheel drags a lot sideway all the time. In stabilizing (and not willing to turn) way if toe-in (=both sides steered to centerline), destabilizing, if toe-out (=both tires presteered to outside, from centerline), so willing to turn depending on which wheel with more grip (usually outer tires in turn, front tires if braking, rear tires if accelerating). If uneven, then car tends to steer more to one side and so on. Summarizing it up, good alignment toe-wise should be zero front, slight toe-in rear (as car is RWD, for slightly more stability under throttle rear, for driving straight even if wheels slip, and for more stable behavior, when accelerating out of turns), and of course toe even from side to side, to track straight in different scenarios.
When i first bought my car the -0.2 of toe out made the steering so much better than when i zero'd it out.

Same as when i installed coilovers, lowering it gave me -0.2 of toe, steering felt a lot more direct and positive than after i zero'd it out.

I'd keep it that way if i didnt care about the cost of tires lol.
Decep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2019, 06:46 PM   #16
brosifSmith
Member
 
brosifSmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Drives: 2015 BRZ Limited
Location: Utah
Posts: 38
Thanks: 2
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Turns out the front was toe in by a total of -.53 degrees. They zeroed it out but kept the camber where it was and now it handles like it's on rails. Crazy how much of a difference that excessive toe in had. I installed some camber bolts in the front too, they are the 16 mm ones, top bolt replacement. They dont seem to help add much camber though, with those in it was at -0.7 on both. I was hoping to have about -1.5 camber. Has anyone experienced this? Perhaps I just put them in the wrong way but it seemed pretty obvious which way they should go to increase negative camber. I put them in one way then rotated them 180 degrees and couldn't really see a difference or the hub moving in or out much. Anyone else installed spc bolts? If so did you have the cam lobe facing in to gain negative camber or does it need to face out?
brosifSmith is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Are clunk noises normal after installing lowering springs? Artxjr Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing 13 12-19-2018 02:48 AM
Raising the car causing clunking sounds? Lol_Traction Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing 2 09-13-2018 01:02 AM
Weird sounds out of gear w/ AC - 2014 BRZ SmartedPanda Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 9 07-15-2017 03:59 AM
Clunking noise after installing springs JACK 8URT0N Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing 9 03-28-2015 04:37 PM
Knocking sounds from lowering springs? bbaik Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 7 03-08-2013 12:50 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.