New (to me) 2013 FR-S - What should I do for reliability?

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by qcbaker

I am also a new owner of a 2013. What are the symptoms of failing direct injector seals?

Typically if you find that usually, almost always, but sometimes never occurring during regular operation of motor vehicle, maybe when if automobile is driven, the event of failure of which resulted in possibly many other failures or simply a factory defect, the car can sometimes inhibit like symptoms of irregular operation, but can also, within abnormal intervals, display exceeding performance of automotive transportation devices abilities from a distantly fortuitous use of the throttle when in a rare, yet, often re-imagined state of mind practiced by the average human being, in which, this anthropoid may feel enjoyment, excitement, bliss, splendor, arousal and so on; mimic'd by other hominids capable of complete and effective usage of said motorcar.

































You should probably just google it.

[Lantanafrs2]

"Keep in mind, this is a SUBARU. not a TOYOTA no matter what your vin says or who mails you your bill every month. that being said, these cars can not be maintained or driven like your average Toyota beater. Take care of her and she'll take care of you. Let her warm up before you dog the hell out of her, check the oil once a week and dont let your oil changes go past 4k miles and enjoy the car lmao"

One of the truest statements in the last 5 years imo. This ain't a Corolla. Just ask the Toyota techs who screwed up on my first short block warranty.

[DefMunkie]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Typically if you find that usually, almost always, but sometimes never occurring during regular operation of motor vehicle, maybe when if automobile is driven, the event of failure of which resulted in possibly many other failures or simply a factory defect, the car can sometimes inhibit like symptoms of irregular operation, but can also, within abnormal intervals, display exceeding performance of automotive transportation devices abilities from a distantly fortuitous use of the throttle when in a rare, yet, often re-imagined state of mind practiced by the average human being, in which, this anthropoid may feel enjoyment, excitement, bliss, splendor, arousal and so on; mimic'd by other hominids capable of complete and effective usage of said motorcar.

































You should probably just google it.

Or as James May would say... It offers a fizzy feeling in your pants.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by qcbaker

I am also a new owner of a 2013. What are the symptoms of failing direct injector seals?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41130

Read through that thread for proper information posted by CSG mike at some point.

The man issue was a tune problem, the remedy output by toyota for those effected was a new tune and replacing any previously damaged injector seals. For future models built and as a preventative effort for current ones they updated the tunes via a TSB for most owners effected. You can check with a dealer if this TSB was performed but most of them give issue with flashing updated tunes to out of warranty cars.

Any OFT tune comes pre-loaded as well as most ecutek tunes with the DI fix baked in, if you dealer refuses to update your tune and it does turn out your car is effected and in the risk zone, you can always look into buying an OFT and flashing a stage 1 tune on there.

Originally Posted by JohnPayneFun

Hey guys,

Just got an FR-S -- LOVE driving it so far. 52k miles, I had bought it without researching year models, thinking that nothing changed between 2013-2016.
That being said, I have done quite a bit of searching and reading on issues that the 2013 FR-S might experience. I want to autocross it but just want to make sure I have everything in best possible shape before I do. I would like to know if I am missing anything as well as some clarity on some things.

-Direct injector seals, I read that if the VIN starts with "J" that this isn't an issue?

-Tune issues, should I just buy an OFT with zero mods?

-Oil pan baffle? Is this a must? Haha...I'm afraid to take a left turn hard!

Anything else I should know about? I'm totally willing to throw some money at the car to give my self some piece-of-mind while driving it hard (with spun rod bearings haunting my thoughts).

Thanks!
-John

1) Look at the above answer with the thread post of the infamous issue, as well as TSB posted in that same thread

2) OFT stage 1 91 or 93 tune will be useful piece of mind as it would come baked in with the DI fix, also you'd get an extra or two like flat foot shift and launch control and a smoother idle. But it isn't completely necessary, chances are if your car is high mileage enough the DI thing isn't a problem


3) Bottomline, do your maintenance and such on time and you will be fine, also I don't know whose been saying oil baffling is necessary but it really isn't unless your a hardcore track or autocross nut who's turn up your corner Gs with a better tire and wheel setup.

Originally Posted by VoltsFRS2013

OOOOOOOOOF, 6/12? damn. I thought my 6/13 was an early production 13... lul

Anyways, get a tune. but I don't reccomend OFT.

OFT uses what an "off the shelf" tune. It's like a one size fits all, except in this case if the shoe doesn't fit it might cost you a motor.

Get a EcuTek and get a real tune, OR just get your ECU updated with the newest flash from your dealer. If your production is that early you should be eligible for a free reflash due to rough idle tsb.

Keep in mind, this is a SUBARU. not a TOYOTA no matter what your vin says or who mails you your bill every month. that being said, these cars can not be maintained or driven like your average Toyota beater. Take care of her and she'll take care of you. Let her warm up before you dog the hell out of her, check the oil once a week and dont let your oil changes go past 4k miles and enjoy the car lmao

You have some in your post. The one size fits "all" statement is technically true but there is no case of an engine blowing up with OFT shiv has tuned them pretty conservatively to be more than safe for the cars, and I dare you to find one case where it did blow up. An ecutek tune suggests he'd get his car dynoed for simple bolt ons or less which is completely unnecessary for our cars. I don't see it feasibly affordable to get your FRS/BRZ dyno tuned if all you're going to run is a header/exhaust/intake or a stock stage 1 tune, there is no real risk with an OFT tune or ecutek e-tune. He won't be eligible for a free reflash if his car is out of warranty, TSBs are not equated to recalls they will not do TSBs unless it is in the warranty period. With that you'd deal with how nice the dealer is and if they'll do it for free or not, but a preventative re-flash will still cost a tech labor time that won't be reimbursed by toyota like it would normally in warranty with a TSB.

Also 4000 mile oil changes have been proven to be a waste of money, 100s of people on this forum have been getting oil analysis done and it's factually proven that the OEM 6000-7500 mile interval is fine with the synthetic oil this car calls for, assuming you're not doing track work or running E85

[qcbaker]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

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Thanks man, appreciate it.